Understanding Recoil in Photon Emission and the Role of Quantum Electrodynamics

In summary: If you point it into a vacuum, it's field will interact with virtual particles of the vacuum state. In this sense it will recoil, but that's not a consequence of the QED structure of the laser itself.In summary, when dealing with a single accelerating electron emitting a single photon, the momentum and direction of the photon are entangled with those of the recoiling electron until the wavefunction collapses. The concept of a photon having its own wavefunction separate from that of the electron is not applicable. The time at which the electron recoils is a meaningless idea, and the collapse of the wavefunction for a photon is questionable. A laser does not emit photons, but rather coherent states of the electromagnetic field, and it will recoil when interacting
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This is the second time I've asked this question, I thought I'd add some extra details. Consider a single accelerating electron, this electron emits a single photon wave which radiates out spherically in a superposition, What direction and what time does the electron recoil if there is no defined direction for the photon before it's wavefunction collapses? also, what would happen if say a laser is pointed at an empty region of space, such that the photons wave function never collapses, does the laser recoil?
 
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Consider a single accelerating electron, this electron emits a single photon wave which radiates out spherically in a superposition, What direction and what time does the electron recoil if there is no defined direction for the photon before it's wavefunction collapses?

So long as the photon does not have a well-defined momentum (including direction), neither does the recoiling electron have a well-defined momentum/direction. They are entangled. When/if you measure the photon momentum/direction sufficiently precisely, then you also know the recoiling electon's momentum/direction, and vice versa.

This assumes that the electron's initial momentum/direction is known sufficiently precisely.
 
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What direction and what time does the electron recoil if there is no defined direction for the photon before its wavefunction collapses?
When you say "its wavefunction" you're thinking of the situation as if the photon has its own wave function separate from that of the electron. That's not how quantum mechanics works; instead we have a single wavefunction for the entire system consisting of an electron and a photon (warning - this is a huge oversimplification that you'll have to unlearn when it comes time for QFT, but it works for now). Until this wavefunction collapses neither the electron recoil nor the photon momentum are defined; the collapse assigns definite values to both.

also, what would happen if say a laser is pointed at an empty region of space, such that the photon's wave function never collapses, does the laser recoil?
Again, we have one wave function that covers the laser and the photon. Measuring the recoil of the laser collapses the whole thing.
 
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It's in fact most easily (and only correctly!) answered in terms of QED. The most simple setup is the scattering of a charged particle (electron) on an external electromagnetic field (e.g., a heavy atomic nucleus which you can approximately treat a classical static field). Then there is certain probability for the electron just being scattered elastically, emitting one photon, emitting two photons, and so on. The leading-order bremsstrahlung diagram is the one where one photon is emitted on the electron line, and energy and momentum are always conserved (when the recoil to the heavy nucleus is considered of course) conserved. Note however, that you have to take into account the infrared problems of the bremsstrahlung. You have to add also the one-loop correction to the vertex for elastic scattering, which is at the same order as the tree-level single-photon bremsstrahlung diagram (an example for the Block-Nordsieck theorem).

The other questions cannot be answered from first principles. Concerning the time at which the electron recoils, this is a meaningless idea since you cannot even unambigously define what an electron might be in the transient state of interaction. Only a delay time due to scattering can be defined by the energy derivative of the corresponding scattering phase shifts.

Also, I don't understand what you mean by "collapse of the wave function" for a photon. It's even questionable, whether there is a collapse of a wave function in a physical sense at all, where the very concept of wave function is applicable. For photons there is no such concept of a wave function.

Last but not least a Laser doesn't emit photons but (a very good approximation to) coherent states of the em. field.
 
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1. What is recoil from photon emission?

Recoil from photon emission is a phenomenon that occurs when an atom or molecule emits a photon, causing it to gain momentum in the opposite direction. This recoil effect is a result of the conservation of momentum principle in physics.

2. How does recoil from photon emission affect the atom or molecule?

The recoil from photon emission can cause the atom or molecule to move in the opposite direction of the emitted photon. This can result in a change in the atom or molecule's position, velocity, and energy.

3. Is recoil from photon emission significant in everyday life?

In most cases, recoil from photon emission is too small to be noticeable in everyday life. However, it plays a crucial role in processes such as laser cooling and the operation of certain types of rocket engines.

4. Can recoil from photon emission be controlled or manipulated?

Yes, the recoil effect from photon emission can be manipulated by changing the direction or energy of the emitted photon. This is often done in research settings to study the behavior of atoms and molecules.

5. How does recoil from photon emission relate to the concept of radiation pressure?

Recoil from photon emission is a manifestation of the radiation pressure, which is the force exerted by light on an object. The recoil effect is a result of the transfer of momentum from the photon to the emitting object, which is a fundamental aspect of radiation pressure.

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