Understanding Stress Distribution in Beams: Plotting Sigma(M) as a Function of Y

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The discussion revolves around the concept of stress distribution in beams, specifically how to plot stress as a function of moment (M) and the implications of varying placement (y) within the beam's cross-section. Participants explore the relationship between moment and stress, considering both constant and varying conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether plotting stress as a function of moment is legitimate, noting that previous questions typically plot stress as a function of placement (y).
  • Another participant suggests that the question may be vague, indicating uncertainty about whether it refers to how maximum stresses change along the beam or how stress varies at a constant cross-section with varying moment.
  • A later reply clarifies that at a given cross-section, the moment is constant, and stress varies as a function of y, proposing that if the moment changes due to different loading conditions, stress will change linearly with a slope of y/I.
  • Participants discuss the convention of positive and negative stress in relation to tension and compression, noting that doubling the moment results in doubling the stress.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the question's complexity, suggesting it may be more straightforward than initially perceived.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the question's intent, with some agreeing on the linear relationship between moment and stress at a cross-section, while others remain uncertain about the question's clarity and depth.

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The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the question regarding the relationship between moment and stress, as well as the assumptions made about constant versus varying conditions. The dependence on definitions of stress and moment may also influence interpretations.

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in a question i am solving, i am asked to plot the stress in a beam as a function of the moment,
but as far as i know, or at least in all the other questions i have solved, i have been asked to plot the strains/stress as a function of my placement (y). could this be a mistake or is this a legitimate question to ask,
when plotting sigma(m) do i take y as a constant, then i will have a linear graph and my slant will be -Y/(I) ??
 
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Dell said:
in a question i am solving, i am asked to plot the stress in a beam as a function of the moment,
but as far as i know, or at least in all the other questions i have solved, i have been asked to plot the strains/stress as a function of my placement (y). could this be a mistake or is this a legitimate question to ask,
when plotting sigma(m) do i take y as a constant, then i will have a linear graph and my slant will be -Y/(I) ??
That question is a bit vague, I'm not sure if they are asking about how the maximum stresses change in a beam as the moment changes along its length; or whether they are asking how the stress varies at a given cross section of the beam where the Moment is constant and the stress varies as function of the y distance from the fibers to the neutral axis (stress = +/- My/I.). Please clarify.
 
stress at a given cross sectioמ as a function of M
 
Dell said:
stress at a given cross sectioמ as a function of M
At a given cross section, the moment is constant for a given loading condition, and the stress varies as function of y, so I guess they are asking that if M were to change at a given cross section due to a different loading condition, how does the stress change at that cross section; in which case, you are correct that you get a straight line linear relationship between the moment at that cross section and the stress at a certain point in that cross section, where the slope of the line, passing through (0,0), is y/I , where y is the distance from the neutal axis to the point on the cross section in question. Whether the slope is + y/I or - y/I, is a matter of convention (stress generally considered positive in tension, negative in compression). Double the moment, you double the stress, etc.
 
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thanks, seemed a bit trivial to me, thought there must be something more to it, but you say not?
 
Dell said:
thanks, seemed a bit trivial to me, thought there must be something more to it, but you say not?
I never liked the question in the first place, so I'm just guessing at what it's looking for.
 

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