Understanding Surface Tension and its Relationship to Force Calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating force related to surface tension in a fluid-filled cylinder. The key point is that to find the force exerted by surface tension, one must consider the orientation of the length used in the calculation, which should be along the surface or circumference of the fluid. Height is not directly relevant to the force calculation; instead, the focus should be on the specific line where surface tension acts. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the context and direction of the length in relation to the fluid surface. Clarifying these details is essential for accurate calculations in fluid dynamics.
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Hi PF!

Simple question here, but if we have some fluid in, say a cylinder container, with a specified surface tension, to get force would we multiply the surface tension by the height of the cylinder (if it's standing up on a circular side)? I know we multiply it by some length, but I don't understand it enough to know which one.

Please help.

Josh
 
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What force are you trying to find?
 
You know, I'm not really sure. I guess what I'm really wondering is what direction that length is, since surface tension is force per unit length.
 
Consider the concept of "surface energy." Think about that word, "surface."
 
Yea, my though is per unit height...is this wrong? Like, orthogonal to whatever surface we are talking about?
 
joshmccraney said:
Yea, my though is per unit height...is this wrong?
If you're trying to find the force exerted by the surface tension, height has nothing to do with it. You need to ask: Force on what?
 
I see what you're saying. To clarify my question entirely, I am reading a paper and there is a non-dimesnional velocity term. Now I could simply take the paper's word and use their proposed velocity, but I want to work it out and see for myself that they have correctly non-dimensionalized the velocity component. They introduce the surface tension for non-dimensional purposes. I am trying to find the direction of that length that is being used. Is this length in surface tension not always oriented in the same direction with respect to the fluid surface?
 
joshmccraney said:
I am trying to find the direction of that length that is being used. Is this length in surface tension not always oriented in the same direction with respect to the fluid surface?
When finding the force exerted by the surface tension on some line, that line is on the surface or its circumference. Perhaps if you posted more details someone will recognize exactly how the surface tension is being used in your application.
 
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