What is Pressure and surface tension in fluids

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of pressure and surface tension in fluids, exploring their definitions, implications, and the context in which they are understood. Participants seek clarification on how these concepts relate to control volumes and the nature of surfaces in fluid mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines pressure as force per unit area acting normal to a surface but struggles to clarify what is meant by "surface."
  • Another participant suggests that pressure exists everywhere within a fluid, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the initial definition provided.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that the surface could be real or virtual, located anywhere in the fluid, which would imply that pressure is present at every point and in all directions.
  • There is a request for further elaboration on the professor's reference to cuts through a control volume and how that relates to pressure and surface tension.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of pressure and surface tension, with no consensus reached on the definitions or the implications of the professor's questions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific nature of the "cuts" mentioned.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the initial definitions provided, particularly regarding the understanding of surfaces in relation to pressure and the implications of control volumes. The discussion also reflects a dependence on the definitions of pressure and surface tension that may not be universally agreed upon.

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Today I was speaking with a professor and he asked me, regarding fluids, what is pressure. I said force per unit area acting normal to a surface. He then asked what I meant by surface. I wasn't really sure how to respond.

He also asked me what surface tension was. I said it is a force per unit length between molecules, like a cohesive force and that if we are given a square surface, surface tension acts to pull the sides of the square, ultimately minimizing surface energy.

He then said the explanation he was looking for referred to cuts through a control volume, and whether pressure and surface tension depended on such cuts. Can someone finesse all of what I've said, whether I'm right or wrong, and explain the cuts he was referring to?
 
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I'm not a fluid specialist (as are @Chestermiller and @boneh3ad), but I think that the point the professor was trying to get you to see is that pressure exists everywhere inside a fluid, while your answer involved a surface.
 
Yeah, I was thinking he might have been looking for the surface to be real or virtual, located anywhere in the fluid and spun in all 3 axes, thus providing pressure at every point and in all directions.
 
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Any ideas anyone? If not I'll stop posting on this thread.
 
joshmccraney said:
Any ideas anyone? If not I'll stop posting on this thread.
Huh? You posted this thread three weeks ago and got some responses. Did you not see them?
 
Yea sorry, I totally missed the above two comments. Thanks!
 

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