Understanding the Basics of Complex Numbers

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This discussion focuses on the understanding and representation of complex numbers, particularly the implications of expressions like 1^i and the concept of imaginary dimensions. Participants clarify that complex numbers can be represented in a two-dimensional plane with real and imaginary axes, and they emphasize that lengths cannot be imaginary. The conversation also touches on the application of complex numbers in fields such as electrical engineering, specifically in modeling alternating current using Euler's formula, e^(ix) = cos(x) + i sin(x).

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  • Understanding of complex numbers and their properties
  • Familiarity with Euler's formula and its applications
  • Basic knowledge of logarithms, particularly natural logarithms
  • Concept of dimensionality in mathematics and physics
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  • Study Euler's formula in-depth and its implications in complex analysis
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hey i know the basics about complex numbers

like: 5*i^7 = 5*i^3 = 5 * -i = -5i = (- pi/2, 5)

but now :

how would i represent :

-> 1 ^ i = ? = ( ? , ? ) or would it involve another mathematical dimension and be more of a (? , ? , ?) ?

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and now, how can i draw a cube of length = i

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i mean , at my school , we told me how to use i , but not how to understand it
we don't even really know why we have the graph with real numbers and pure imaginary numbers as axis ?
 
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1^i = 1. 1^x = 1 for all complex numbers x.

The complex numbers are closed, so you'll never need another unit j, say, to solve equations involving complex numbers, such as 1^i=x.

Lengths are positive real numbers. You can't have something with an imaginary length.

Putting complex numbers on a graph with real part and imaginary parts as axes is just a representation. It doesn't much mean anything. You can do it differently if you want (magnitude and angle axes, for example). It's just useful to think of them as points in the plane to help your intuition.
 
ok since 1^x= 1 , x belonging to all complex numbers
bad example

then 2 ^ i = ?
 
if a is a positive real number, tghen a^z can be defined as e^(ln(a)z) where ln(a) is the positive real natural log of a.
if a is a more complicated complex number, there is no such nice unique choice of a natural log of a, so a^z has more than one meaning.

i know iof no way to make sense of a complex length, so a cube of side lnegth i amkes no sense to me. what does it mean to you? maybe you cn think of something interesting.
 
so your second exmple 2^i equals e^(i.ln(2)), which is approximated as closekly as desired by the series for e^z.
so the first two terms are 1 + i.ln(2).
 
thx for the a^i

and for the cube, maybe a cube with imaginary borders, sides , ect = an imaginary cube : )

or maybe a cube with no lengh in our 3 main dimentions (we cannot see it), but with an existence in another dimension : )
 
JPC said:
thx for the a^i

and for the cube, maybe a cube with imaginary borders, sides , ect = an imaginary cube : )

or maybe a cube with no lengh in our 3 main dimentions (we cannot see it), but with an existence in another dimension : )
How did you get off complex numbers to geometry? I know of know way of defining "a cube with imaginary borders, sides, etc." I have no idea what you could mean by an imaginary length.
 
i didnt mean into geometry, but in existence
i admit, the idea of the cube was a bad idea, but complex numbers surely must be found somewhere in nature (or somewhere in space) ? i mean is there somewhere in space, or more precisely earth, where we see sqroot(-1) ?
 
JPC said:
i didnt mean into geometry, but in existence
i admit, the idea of the cube was a bad idea, but complex numbers surely must be found somewhere in nature (or somewhere in space) ? i mean is there somewhere in space, or more precisely earth, where we see sqroot(-1) ?

Complex numbers can be applied to models dealing with alternating current. There are probably more.
 
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can you tell me in what exactly with alternative current we find complex numbers ?
 
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eix= cos(x)+ i sin(x) so complex exponentials are routinely used to represent waves such as alternating current. Of course those Wacky engineers use j instead of i!
 

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