Understanding the Difference: Coniferous vs. Deciduous Trees

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the terms "coniferous" and "deciduous" in the context of tree species. "Coniferous" refers to cone-bearing trees, while "deciduous" describes trees that shed their leaves, such as oaks. However, the conversation highlights the complexity of these classifications, noting that some trees within the same genus can be both deciduous and non-deciduous. Additionally, certain conifers, like the American Larch, are also deciduous, indicating that there is no distinct group of deciduous trees separate from conifers. The inquiry also seeks to identify the noun form associated with "deciduous," leading to the mention of the Latin verb "decidre," meaning "to fall off," although it lacks an English equivalent. The discussion concludes with the acknowledgment that conifers represent a family of trees, complicating any simplistic comparison to deciduous trees.
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Coniferous is to Conifer

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Deciduous is to ?
 
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Assuming just tree species here, since that seems to be the intent.

It doesn't parse exactly. Coniferous means cone-bearing, as does conifer.

But. Deciduous means 'dropping leaves', like an oak tree. Except that there are species of trees that are "cousins", i.e., in the same genus, where some species are deciduous, some are not. Plus there are conifers, American Larch as an example, that are deciduous.

So, there is no 'deciduous' group which is completely distinct from conifer.
What are you driving at?
 
Coniferous is to Conifer as Deciduous is to The Decider! (Jon Stewart fans rejoice)
 
jim mcnamara said:
Assuming just tree species here, since that seems to be the intent.

It doesn't parse exactly. Coniferous means cone-bearing, as does conifer.

But. Deciduous means 'dropping leaves', like an oak tree. Except that there are species of trees that are "cousins", i.e., in the same genus, where some species are deciduous, some are not. Plus there are conifers, American Larch as an example, that are deciduous.

So, there is no 'deciduous' group which is completely distinct from conifer.
What are you driving at?

I'm simply asking what the noun root of the adjective deciduous is.


A conifer is so because it is coniferous.
A ? is so because it is deciduous.
 
There's a Latin verb "decidre", which means "to fall off". There's no English form of the word. While "conifer" has Latin roots, ("coniferae" is the family name), the origins are in the Greek Konos.
 
When you're asking in the Bio section, adding the one word "noun" would have made it clear. sorry.
 
brewnog said:
There's a Latin verb "decidre", which means "to fall off". There's no English form of the word. While "conifer" has Latin roots, ("coniferae" is the family name), the origins are in the Greek Konos.
Ah - conifers are a family.

So, I can't meaningfully say "the conifers are a more primitive plant form than the decidres".
 
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