Understanding the Manipulation of Natural Logarithms

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How is it true that:

Log[L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] - Log[-L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] = 2{Log[L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] - Log[Z]}

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Is this homework?

The equality is not very complicated to check. Use the properties of logarithms to get to the form log(x) = log(y), and then check if x = y.
 
DrClaude said:
Is this homework?

The equality is not very complicated to check. Use the properties of logarithms to get to the form log(x) = log(y), and then check if x = y.

Not homework, but part of a textbook problem that I'm using to study. I can get as far as the form log(x) = log(y) by turning the differences into quotients and the multiplicative prefactor on the right into an exponent. I guess I'm having trouble with the easiest part, seeing the algebraic identity.
 
Sturk200 said:
How is it true that:

Log[L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] - Log[-L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] = 2{Log[L+(Z^2+L^2)^(1/2)] - Log[Z]}

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Is your equation:

##log\; [L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}] -log\; [-L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}]=2log\; [L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}] - log (Z)## ?

The Laws of Logarithms are:

##log\; (a) - log\; (b) = log\;(\frac{a}{b}) ##

##log\; (a+b) - log\; (a-b) = log\;(\frac{a+b}{a-b}) ##

##log\;(a^b) = b\;log\;(a)##

##log\;[(a+b)^c]=c\;log\;(a+b)##
 
SteamKing said:
Is your equation:

##log\; [L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}] -log\; [-L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}]=2log\; [L + \sqrt{(Z^2 + L^2)}] - log (Z)## ?

The Laws of Logarithms are:

##log\; (a) - log\; (b) = log\;(\frac{a}{b}) ##

##log\; (a+b) - log\; (a-b) = log\;(\frac{a+b}{a-b}) ##

##log\;(a^b) = b\;log\;(a)##

##log\;[(a+b)^c]=c\;log\;(a+b)##

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I understand this much. So the problem becomes showing that

(L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2])/(-L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2]) = [(L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2])/Z]^2

Maybe this is me being dumb, but I don't know how to get from the left side to the right side.
 
Sturk200 said:
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I understand this much. So the problem becomes showing that

(L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2])/(-L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2]) = [(L + Sqrt[Z^2 + L^2])/Z]^2

Maybe this is me being dumb, but I don't know how to get from the left side to the right side.
If you start from the left side, simply multiply by ##(L+\sqrt{Z^2+L^2})/(L+\sqrt{Z^2+L^2})##. This is the same trick as when we multiply by conjugates of complex numbers to get rid of a term (a+ib) in the denominator.
 
nrqed said:
If you start from the left side, simply multiply by ##(L+\sqrt{Z^2+L^2})/(L+\sqrt{Z^2+L^2})##. This is the same trick as when we multiply by conjugates of complex numbers to get rid of a term (a+ib) in the denominator.

My lord, that is simple. Thank you.