Understanding the Metric Tensor and its dx's in Space-Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the metric tensor and the notation used for differentials (dx's) in the context of space-time, particularly in relation to the equation for proper time.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Ben expresses confusion regarding the proper time equation in space-time and seeks clarification on the metric tensor and the dx's.
  • One participant explains that the equation represents a linear combination of the dx's with coefficients from the metric tensor, providing an example with a specific diagonal tensor.
  • Another participant clarifies that the indices on the dx's are tensor indices corresponding to the four dimensions of space-time.
  • A different perspective suggests that the equation can be interpreted as a dot product of differentials, emphasizing the role of the metric tensor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the metric tensor and the notation used, but there are different ways of expressing the relationship between the components and the equation for proper time.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of the metric tensor and the specific form it takes (e.g., the diagonal form) are not explicitly stated, which may affect the understanding of the equation.

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Individuals interested in general relativity, differential geometry, or those studying the mathematical framework of physics may find this discussion beneficial.

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I know what the equation for proper time is in basic Euclaiden space. But when space-time is concerned, I get a bit confused.

The equation is: [tex]\Delta\tau=\sqrt{g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}}[/tex]

I realize that [tex]g_{\mu\nu}[/tex] is the Metric tensor. However i don't understand the dx's and their indices.

Would someone be able to explain these features to me?

Thanks,

Ben.
 
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Ben473 said:
[tex]\Delta\tau=\sqrt{g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}}[/tex]

I realize that [tex]g_{\mu\nu}[/tex] is the Metric tensor. However i don't understand the dx's and their indices.

Hi Ben! :smile:

It means dtau² is the linear combination of the dxidxjs, with coefficients gij.

So, for example, if gij is the usual (1,-1,-1,-1) diagonal tensor, then dtau² = dt² - dx² - dy² - dz². :smile:
 
The indexes on the dx's are tensor indexes, which run over the 4 dimensions so that for instance,
[tex]x^0 = t, x^1 = x, x^2 = y, x^3 = z[/tex]

When indexes are repeated high and low, it means take the sum ( as Tiny-Tim has done ).

M
 
Ben473 said:
[tex]\Delta\tau=\sqrt{g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}}[/tex]

can be thought of as
[tex]\Delta\tau=\sqrt{ d\vec x \cdot d\vec x }[/tex]
In the original form, the metric-tensor is explicit.
 
Thanks Tiny Tim, Mentz 114 and Robphy.

Appreciate your help and I understand this equation a lot better.

Thanks,

Ben.

P.S. Nice secret message Robphy!
 

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