Unexpected Zeta and Overshoot relation

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The discussion centers on a feedback control system designed to minimize overshoot and settling time, with a calculated zeta of 0.94 suggesting minimal overshoot. However, the system exhibits unexpected behavior due to its 5th-order nature, resulting from a pole and zero cancellation at the origin. The presence of a dominant complex pole pair with a quality factor of approximately 0.52 indicates that a small overshoot is still expected under closed-loop conditions. The participants emphasize the need to compute the actual step response rather than relying solely on theoretical formulas. Overall, the complexity of the system's order plays a crucial role in its response characteristics.
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I have a designed feedback control system trying to minimize the overshoot and the setting time. The zeta I (think) ended up with is 0.94. According to this formula:
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I am supposed to have a very small overshoot. However the step response of the system looks like this:
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The poles are:
0.0000 + 0.0000i (0 is also a zero, so do they cancel?)
-2.0000 + 0.0000i
-0.5313 + 0.1740i
-0.5313 - 0.1740i
-0.5600 + 0.0000i
-0.0600 + 0.0000i

Does that formula apply only for second order system? Or must I have miscalculated something?
 
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Wxfsa said:
Does that formula apply only for second order system? Or must I have miscalculated something?
Yes, the pole & zero at the origin cancel.
Leaving you with a whopping 5th-order system. I wouldn't know any other way than to compute the actual response to a step input, eschewing any and all a priori formulas.
 
Great, thanks.
 
Wxfsa said:
Does that formula apply only for second order system? Or must I have miscalculated something?

Your 5th order system has only one dominant complex pole pair with a pole-Q of app. Qp=0.52. The remaining poles are negative-real.
Hence, I agree with you that we can expect a rather small overshoot only (assuming that the mentioned poles apply to closed-loop conditions).
 

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