Uniqueness of canonical transformations

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The uniqueness of canonical transformations in mechanics is confirmed, particularly when considering the mapping from \( q \) to \( Q \). Given the relationship \( P(q,p) = \frac{p}{Q'(q)} + \tilde{P}(q) \), the transformation is determined up to an arbitrary function \( \tilde{P}(q) \). The transformation must satisfy the canonical Poisson-bracket relations to be classified as a symplectomorphism on phase space. This discussion highlights that canonical transformations encompass a broader scope than symmetry transformations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Hamilton's equations of motion
  • Familiarity with canonical transformations in mechanics
  • Knowledge of Poisson-bracket relations
  • Basic concepts of phase space in analytical mechanics
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of canonical transformations in Hamiltonian mechanics
  • Explore the implications of symplectomorphisms on phase space
  • Investigate the role of arbitrary functions in canonical transformations
  • Learn about point transformations within the Lagrangian formulation
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in theoretical mechanics, particularly those focusing on Hamiltonian dynamics and canonical transformations.

neelakash
Messages
491
Reaction score
1
The following question seems to be simple enough...Anyway, I hope if someone could confirm what I am thinking.

Is canonical transformation in mechanics unique? We know that given \ (q, p)\rightarrow\ (Q, P), \ [q,p] = [Q,P] = constant and Hamilton's equations of motion stay the same in the new co-ordinates.

My question is: given \ q\rightarrow Q in a canonical transoformation, is the map \ p\rightarrow P uniquely determined? Seems yes to me, but I do not find an off-hand argument in favour.

Can anyone tell how to derive this map?

-Regards,
Neel
 
Physics news on Phys.org
This is a simplified special case, i.e.,
Q=Q(q).
Now we have
\{Q,P \}=Q'(q) \frac{\partial P}{\partial p} \stackrel{!}{=} 1.
This means that
\frac{\partial P}{\partial p}=-\frac{1}{Q'(q)}.
This means that
P(q,p)=-\frac{p}{Q'(q)}+\tilde{P}(q).
with an arbitrary function \tilde{P}(q) alone. Thus, the canonical transformation is determined up to this arbitrary function only.
 
Thanks for the reply...I think I see your point; in such a case, apparently p\rightarrow P is a linear map...By the way, if it was intended, I could not understand the appearance of '!' and '-' sign.
 
Argh! The minus sign is simply wrong.

The exclamation mark over the equality sign indicates that this is a constraint to make the transformation a canonical one (i.e., a symplectomorphism on phase space). One can show that a transformation is canonical if and only if the canonical Poisson-bracket relations hold for the new variables. So the correct answer to your question is

Q=Q(q), \quad P(q,p)=+\frac{p}{Q'(q)}+\tilde{P}(q).

By the way, this is the special case of a "point transformation", which is the same as changing from a generalized coordinate q to an arbitrary new one, Q within the Lagrangian formulation of analytical mechanics.

The important point to realize is that the Hamilton formulation admits a larger group of transformations, namely the canonical transformations!
 
I agree fully...The scope of canonical transformations is a larger than the so-called symmetry transformations...Thank you very much for the explanations...
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
699
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K