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The discussion focuses on the use of a new page for unlimited previewing and testing of LaTeX on Physics Forums, with the link provided. Users report varying experiences with different browsers; it works best in Chrome, while Firefox has some permission issues and font quality concerns. Some users successfully utilize the preview feature in Firefox and Opera, while others encounter problems, especially with Internet Explorer 8.0, which fails to load the necessary JavaScript files. A potential cause for the issues is discussed, involving browser caching and the reuse of file names for generated graphics. Suggestions for improvement include changing the file naming algorithm to prevent overwriting cached images. Additionally, users share methods for saving posts without submitting, such as copying text to Notepad. The conversation also touches on the need for a complete reference for LaTeX symbols, with a specific request for Dirac notation.
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You can now use this page for unlimited previewing and testing
https://www.physicsforums.com/mathjax/preview.html

Works best in Chrome. In FF there is a permission problem and the font is a little crude.

I'll look to see how we can add this to the post editor.
 
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Cool! Works in FF for me (with Windows XP Pro)

Thank you Greg, I'll add it to the LaTeX sticky.
 
I am sad to report that it did not work for me. The one in the link that someone else posted in the other thread did, however.

I typed something into the text box and clicked the side space and nothing happened.
 
Thank you so much for this! I was having some trouble with my previews when replying to people and this will come in handy a lot! Thanks again! Went straight into my bookmarks when I saw it's capabilities.
 
Works in FF 3.0 on OS X.
 
~christina~ said:
I am sad to report that it did not work for me. The one in the link that someone else posted in the other thread did, however.

I typed something into the text box and clicked the side space and nothing happened.
What browser and OS is this on?
 
Works under Opera/Windows XP.
 
Works with Firefox 3.6.9 under Vista, but the very first time I used it, it took about 5-10 secs to get the preview, after that it was very fast.

It doesn't work with Internet Explorer 8.0 under Vista: the displayed preview is always "You typed: ${}$" and messages at the bottom of the screen say that various JS files failed to load.
 
Just in case anybody might be interested, I think I know the root cause of the weird LaTeX issue that everyone seems to have trouble with.

If I had to guess, the original LaTeX issue involves the browser's cache combined with the way PF assigns file names to graphics.

I'm not certain that is the case, but suspect that it's at least something like it. Here is a more detailed scenario of what I'm suspecting:

(a) User originally hits the preview button.
(b) PF processes the LaTeX code, and creates .png graphics files of the equations. Each .png graphics file gets assigned a name and a corresponding link (something or other short of like https://www.physicsforums.com/latex_images/28/2886657-0.png" , but with a slightly different location [in a special "preview" directory] and a different file name).
(c) The image gets downloaded to user via normal http protocol and displayed on the screen
(d) The link is also cached locally on the user's machine.
(e) The user makes an edit to the equation and previews it again.
(f) PF creates a new graphic overwriting the old image, re-using the same file name.
(g) Via http protocol, browser thinks that the local cached graphic is the same graphic as the one on the server (after all, they share the same URL and file name).
(h) Cached graphic gets displayed on the browser.
(i) Only by hitting "refresh" will cause the browser to reload the server content, bypassing the cache.

A solution to this might be to change the algorithm making sure that the PF server does not recycle file names for previews. Of course, that means that more graphics files get stored on the server. So maybe a fix might also involve automatically deleting "preview" graphics files after the preview session is complete, but still not recycling file names (the index for the file names keeps incrementing, even if the files are deleted).
 
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Under Opera it is enough to right click the LaTeX png and select Reload image.
 
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DrGreg said:
It doesn't work with Internet Explorer 8.0 under Vista: the displayed preview is always "You typed: ${}$" and messages at the bottom of the screen say that various JS files failed to load.

This was what I was seeing.

It works on firefox 3.6.10 for me.
 
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If I am working on a post, especially one that includes Latex, and I need to leave my computer for an extended time, is there a good way of saving the post and previewing it without actually submitting it? Should the blogs be used in this way?

Bob S
 
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Bob S said:
If I am working on a post, especially one that includes Latex, and I need to leave my computer for an extended time, is there a good way of saving the post and previewing it without actually submitting it? Should the blogs be used in this way?

Bob S

I would copy paste to notepad and saved locally.
 
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Borek said:
I would copy paste to notepad and saved locally.
That's exactly what I do, and then I delete the Notepad text after I have made the post.
 
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I would like the Latex \operator for Dirac bras and kets: <ψ*|function|ψ>. Is there a complete reference for Latex symbols?

Thanks.
 

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