Unlocking Binding Energy Solutions for Part C)ii - Tips and Strategies

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The discussion focuses on solving part c)ii of a binding energy problem, where the user initially miscalculated the energy in mega joules instead of kilojoules. After recalculating, they found a binding energy closer to the expected value but still needed to convert from kJ/kg to kJ/mol. The conversation shifts to part d)ii, where the user seeks clarification on calculating the volume per atom for mercury, mistakenly referencing neon. Participants emphasize the importance of unit tracking throughout calculations to avoid errors. The discussion highlights the need for precise unit conversions and careful calculations in physics problems.
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Homework Statement
Working out how to calculate binding energy
Relevant Equations
l = 1/2Nne
Here is the question:

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Stuck on how to complete part c)ii

Here is what I have done so far as well as trying to answer part c)ii

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Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
 
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37 kJ = 37x103 J.
 
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kuruman said:
37 kJ = 37x103 J.

Oh shoot yes you’re right. I don’t know why I processed it at as mega joules

So doing the following calculation again gives

Binding energy = (2 * 293000) / (6x10^23 * 7) = 1.41x10^-19 J which is closer to the answer but still not right
 
296 kJ/kg. You need kJ/mol.
 
mjc123 said:
296 kJ/kg. You need kJ/mol.

So to convert from kJ/kg to kJ/mol, I must multiply kJ/kg by the molar mass?

I did this and got the following

Binding energy = 2(293000 * 0.20)/(6x10^23)(7) = 2.79... x10^-20 J which is roughly equal to 2.8x10^-20 J

I also got another part that I need help with if you don’t mind

Not entirely sure how to approach part d)ii but I suppose I had done part d) i right
 

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di is right. Not sure what the problem is for dii - find the volume per atom, as you did for Hg.
 
mjc123 said:
di is right. Not sure what the problem is for dii - find the volume per atom, as you did for Hg.

To find volume per atom. I know that 1.0691... x10^-4 moles of Hg is contained in 2x10^-4 m^3.

So to firstly get the volume per mole of Hg, I do ' 2x10^-4 / 1.0691...x10^-4 ' which gives 1.870... volume per mole

Dividing 1.870... by avogrado's constant is '1.870... / 6.022x10^23 = 3.106... x 10^-24 volume per atom
Cube rooting volume per atom number should give the spacing which comes out to be '1.459... x10^-8 m'

Would you agree that these steps are the right way of doing this?
 
Yes, except that you're talking about neon, not mercury.
 
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mjc123 said:
Yes, except that you're talking about neon, not mercury.

Yes, sorry I got mixed up with the wording somehow
 
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The other thing is that I would be more explicit about tracking units through the calculation. So rather than say "1.870 volume per mole" I would say "1.870 m3 volume per mole"; likewise "3.106 x 10-24 m3 volume per atom". In this case, as you're dealing in m all the time, it's not so critical, but if you're switching between e.g. m and cm, or J and kJ, you can easily make mistakes if you don't keep track of units.
 
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