News US spies arrested abroad vs. spies arrested in the US

nabki

Re: US "spies" arrested abroad vs. "spies" arrested in the US

In my opinion, a better comparison would be between Roxana Saberi's case and that of Sami Haaj. Both are journalists, both were charged with espionage. The difference is that one had a trial, appealed and was set free after a few months, the other was kidnapped, imprisoned for about 7 years without trial, and wasn't given any access to courts or due legal processing.
 

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Re: US "spies" arrested abroad vs. "spies" arrested in the US

How do you figure one could rightly expect an unbiased jury at the heart of the same Cuban American community which hosts http://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/56/a56521.pdf" [Broken]?
Have you ever been on a high-profile jury panel? The lawyers go through hundreds of potential jurors before selecting an actual jury, and the defense attorney can dismiss an indefinite number. The final jury in this case included no Cuban-Americans.

The more legitimate concern over the location is that the prevailing anti-Castro sentiment might sway the jury, whether they were personally unbiased or not, but even that is specious.
 
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antimatroid

Re: US "spies" arrested abroad vs. "spies" arrested in the US

Okay, so people have been quick to point out the differences in two cases, whilst all but one avoided answering mgb_phys's post, the one respondent mearly stated one should know better than to photograph other people's children.

A bunch of UK plane-spotters went to Greece to photograph military aircraft, on a military airbase, noting down all the serial numbers, types etc and were arrested as spies.
Usual outcry about foreigners treating Englishmen, demand to send gunboats, invade Greece. Charges eventually dropped because of diplomatic pressure. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1697862.stm

Greek tourist takes a photograph on the London Underground, and is arrested, because a women complained her kid was in one of the pictures - won't someone think of the children.
http://www.legalbanter.co.uk/uk-legal-legal-issues-uk/54810-photographer-held-london.html


Aside from that, what if you look at it this from a hypothetical situation..

Suppose one of the US spies has been captured overseas whilst breaking that nations laws, do you think that they should be released while a spy from another country captured inside US soil breaking US laws shouldn't? and if so, do you not consider these pretty poor double standards?
 

kyleb

Re: US "spies" arrested abroad vs. "spies" arrested in the US

The more legitimate concern over the location is that the prevailing anti-Castro sentiment might sway the jury, whether they were personally unbiased or not, but even that is specious.
That is my consern. Is that not the reason trials are moved to different localities, the Rodney King beating trial being a notable example?
 

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