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News US state department flip-flopping on Geneva conventions

  1. Dec 9, 2005 #1
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051209/pl_afp/usattacksjusticeicrc_051209211312;_ylt=AmLczct7v8RvmVbweb_6bc7B4FkB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl" [Broken]

    So they're claiming they're not bound to the Geneva convention - but because they're nice guys, they'll still abide by it. But they won't accept any monitoring or accountability - they want to police themselves. And the office of the VP wants to let them do exactly that, as well as be able to torture people without any oversight. But the office of the President assures as, "We do not torture!" So there's no problem.

    Why do people in this country vote for chronic liars?
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  3. Dec 9, 2005 #2


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    How is that a flip-flop? Did you see the thread about deterrence?
  4. Dec 10, 2005 #3
    I don't see any other threads about this - if we already have one, feel free to merge them.
  5. Dec 10, 2005 #4
    might not be a flip flop, but it is anti-democratic and not something that should be condoned by a country like the USA
  6. Dec 10, 2005 #5


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    On this topic, the Bush administration has been fighting very hard. For example:

    But since the issue has been made more public, and leaders like McCain have stood up against Bush, et al, they appear to be backing off. Now,


    MSNBC did a good story yesterday evening (Countdown broadcast) as well, and discussed the change...or might one say, the flip-flop? To the OP, people vote for chronic liars if the liar will get them what they want.
  7. Dec 11, 2005 #6
    My understanding of the Geneva conventions was to try and insure that even during the most inhumane acts that humans engage in that a shred of humanity would be left intact, IE once the "enemy" was captured they would not be abused. I guess Bushco wants to discard even the barest shreds of humanity.

    Oh and they expect to be taken at their word. :bugeye:

    No we don't torture people.

    No we are not going to let you look and see.

    Trust us.
  8. Dec 12, 2005 #7
    Yes, just like the marines here in paraguay...

    Hey they are there just to do some exercises.. they aren't going to do nothing bad.... but please sign this that says they will be not prosecuted for comiting crimes, and they will have total inmunity....

  9. Dec 12, 2005 #8
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry::cry:
    How can people be so cruel????????
  10. Dec 12, 2005 #9
    They're politicians, that's how.
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