Use algebra to find the x and y intercepts , for a quadratic equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the x-intercepts and y-intercept of the quadratic equation y = -x^2/5 + x/5 + 6. Participants are exploring the algebraic methods necessary to solve for these intercepts, specifically focusing on the steps to manipulate the equation correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting values into the equation to find the y-intercept and express uncertainty about how to approach finding the x-intercept. There is a focus on clearing fractions and the implications of the signs in the equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding multiplying the equation to simplify it, while others are checking assumptions about the signs and coefficients in the equation. There is ongoing exploration of methods like factoring and using the quadratic formula, but no consensus has been reached on a final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly handling the negative sign in the coefficient of the x^2 term, which is critical for finding the correct intercepts. There is also mention of upcoming topics related to completing the square and the quadratic formula, indicating that some participants are still in the process of learning these methods.

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Homework Statement



Use algebra to find the x-intercepts and y-intercept of The graph of y=-x^2/5+x/5+6
this is a parabola.

Homework Equations


y=-x^2/5+x/5+6

The Attempt at a Solution


Find the y-intercept , which is substitute 0=x into the equation to find the answer , done that .
The problem I have is where to start to find the x-intercept , I know that y=0 so I now have x^2/5+x/5+6=0 , but believe I can't now factorise this equation and will have to first clear the fractions first . Is this the right place to start.
 
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duggielanger said:

Homework Statement



Use algebra to find the x-intercepts and y-intercept of The graph of y=x^2/5+x/5+6
this is a parabola.

Homework Equations


y=x^2/5+x/5+6


The Attempt at a Solution


Find the y-intercept , which is substitute 0=x into the equation to find the answer , done that .
The problem I have is where to start to find the x-intercept , I know that y=0 so I now have x^2/5+x/5+6=0 , but believe I can't now factorise this equation and will have to first clear the fractions first . Is this the right place to start.


Sounds a good place to me. What do you then get? Have you learned e.g. completing the square, or the quadratic formula yet?
 
Not answered the question yet ,and not done them yet they are coming up in the section.
Will try and find the answer in a bit and post my results .
 
Hint: since one side of the equation=0, you can easily multiply both sides by 5, and then -1...
 
duggielanger said:

Homework Statement



Use algebra to find the x-intercepts and y-intercept of The graph of y=-x^2/5+x/5+6
this is a parabola.

Homework Equations


y=-x^2/5+x/5+6


The Attempt at a Solution


Find the y-intercept , which is substitute 0=x into the equation to find the answer , done that .
The problem I have is where to start to find the x-intercept , I know that y=0 so I now have x^2/5+x/5+6=0 , but believe I can't now factorise this equation and will have to first clear the fractions first . Is this the right place to start.

Note that you've dropped the minus sign on the coefficient of the [itex]x^2[/itex] term the last time you wrote that (in bold). That minus sign is all-important. Without that, you don't have an x-intercept!
 
yeah thank you for that i will remember the minus sign
 
Once you have done what e^pi i + 1= 0 suggested, multiplying the entire equation by -5, you will have a quadratic equation with integer coefficients that is easy to factor.
 
Ah right think I have it now , multiply by the least common denominator, which is 5, which leaves me with -x^2+x-30=0 and the by -1 to get x^2-x-30=0 and then factor to get (x+5)(x-6).
Thank you everyone
 
duggielanger said:
Ah right think I have it now , multiply by the least common denominator, which is 5, which leaves me with -x^2+x-30=0
No, you get -x^2+ x+ 30 but then your next is correct:
and the by -1 to get x^2-x-30=0 and then factor to get (x+5)(x-6).
Thank you everyone
Yes, that is correct.
 

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