Using chain rule to differentiate x^x

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function \( x^x \) using the chain rule. The original poster expresses difficulty in applying the chain rule to this specific problem and seeks guidance on setting up the necessary equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the chain rule but struggles with the setup, indicating a need for clarification on how to express the function in terms of parametric equations. Some participants suggest defining \( y(t) \) and \( z(t) \) as equal to \( t \) to facilitate differentiation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing partial derivatives and exploring different representations of the function. There is a mix of approaches being discussed, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus on a single method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions familiarity with one-variable calculus but indicates a gap in understanding how to apply the chain rule in this context. There are hints of confusion regarding the necessary transformations and the role of logarithms in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



Use the chain rule to find (d/dx)(xx) by using the function f(y,z)=yz.

Homework Equations



Chain rule: [tex]\frac{dz}{dt}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}[/tex] [tex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}[/tex] [tex]\frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly have no clue on how to use chain rule in this problem. I have spent about an hour trying to set up a chain rule equation and I have given up hope on finding one.

The partial derivatives of f(y,z) are:
[tex]\frac{\partial x}{\partial y}[/tex] = zyz-1
[tex]\frac{\partial x}{\partial z}[/tex] = yzln(y)

I have a strong feeling that I need to set up parametric equations somewhere to cancel out and get dy/dx, but I can't seem to find any possible way.

I know how to find the derivative using one-variable calculus, and it comes to out be [dy/dz = xx(1+ln(x))]. Any hints on how to setup a chain rule equation would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
 
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Let y(t) = t and let z(t) = t. What you're looking for is then df/dt, which the fits the chain rule you posted nicely.
 
slider142 said:
Let y(t) = t and let z(t) = t. What you're looking for is then df/dt, which the fits the chain rule you posted nicely.

Alright so taking it a step further:

[tex]\frac{df}{dt} = \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} \frac{dy}{dt} + \frac{\partial f}{\partial z} \frac{dz}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]y(t)=t[/tex]

[tex]z(t)=t[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dt} = 1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dz}{dt} = 1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{df}{dt} = \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{df}{dt} = zy^z-1 + y^z ln(y)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{df}{dt} = \frac{zy^z}{y} + y^z ln(y)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{df}{dt} = y^z (\frac{z}{y} + ln(y))[/tex]

[tex]y=x[/tex]

[tex]z=x[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = x^x (\frac{x}{x} + ln(x))[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = x^x (1+ln(x))[/tex]

Thank you very much for your help.
 
The answer to your problem: (d/dx)(x^x) = y(x^x)...z is to be canceled out along the operations..try differentiating both sides of the equations.

First let y=x^x and
f(y,z)=u=y^z--->from here solve for y in terms of z, you can do that by getting the ln of both sides.
You will arrive at having: y=e^lnu.

Hope this could be of any help.
 

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