Valid Units of Measure for Trig Argument

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The discussion revolves around the appropriate units of measure for arguments passed into trigonometric functions, specifically addressing the validity of using seconds in expressions like cos(3π*15 seconds).

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore whether seconds can be used as valid units for angles in trigonometric functions and discuss the implications of unit cancellation in such expressions.

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There is a mix of agreement and differing opinions on the treatment of units in trigonometric arguments. Some participants suggest that seconds should be dropped, while others argue that they cancel out, leading to a nuanced exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that radians are often treated differently than other units, with some suggesting that they are not considered "real" units in the same way as meters or seconds.

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Quick question. If i pass into a trig function something like cos(3pi*15 seconds), do I drop the seconds from the resultant answer since it's not a valid unit of measure for theta?
 
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that's right.
the inside of the bracket for any trig identity has units of rad (or degrees if you think that way)
it's common convention to just drop the units though, since rads aren't really a 'unit'.
 
The argument (the thing in brackets) of any trig function has to be an angle. Seconds are not valid units for angles. If in your example, the 3 \pi has units of radians/second, then the units would work out properly.
 
If your problem is well expressed you will find that the factor (in your case) of 3 \pi has units of 1/s . Thus you do not drop the seconds, they cancel out.
 
Integral said:
If your problem is well expressed you will find that the factor (in your case) of 3 \pi has units of 1/s . Thus you do not drop the seconds, they cancel out.

Are radians when used in this way normally expressed per second?
 
Radians per second are the units of angular speed (\omega), which is a very common quantity in problems dealing with rotational motion, simple harmonic motion, and waves.

Some people prefer not to name the radians explicitly when doing units-analysis because they're not "really" units in the same sense as meters, seconds, etc. Recall that the radian is defined as the (unitless) ratio of two distances: the length along an arc of a circle divided by the radius of the circle.
 

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