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The discussion centers around aviation safety, particularly in relation to emergency landings and mechanical failures. It highlights the risks associated with small passenger planes and the comparative safety of road travel. The conversation references regulations in the Netherlands and the UK that prohibit emergency landings on roads due to traffic hazards, contrasting this with practices in Alaska where roads serve as runways. The Kegworth air disaster is mentioned as a case study, emphasizing the mechanical failure and the crew's misdiagnosis of the engine issue, which was attributed to poor cockpit ergonomics and aircrew confusion. The discussion suggests that single-pilot operations might mitigate such errors by simplifying decision-making during emergencies.
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Luckily you didn't use that flight to go anywhere. Sad as it is, but the odds of getting hurt is a lot bigger with road traffic.

In The Netherlands it's prohibited to attempt an emergency landing on a road, because it would also endanger the -always dense- traffic.
 
Andre said:
In The Netherlands it's prohibited to attempt an emergency landing on a road, because it would also endanger the -always dense- traffic.

Same in the UK, but these guys made quite a "creative" interpretation of "not landing on a road..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

In the picture on the wiki page, there are two separate parallel multi-lane roads with central reservations (and one of the central reservations has a set of runway landing lights installed on it.)

If they had crashed a few meters shorter, they would have blocked 6 lanes of traffic traveling at 70 - 80 mph on the UK's main North-South motorway :bugeye:

The root cause was a mechanical failure, followed by the flight crew wrongly diagnosing whcih engine had failed. (Not a good call, on a two-engine plane).
 
Andre said:
Luckily you didn't use that flight to go anywhere. Sad as it is, but the odds of getting hurt is a lot bigger with road traffic.

In The Netherlands it's prohibited to attempt an emergency landing on a road, because it would also endanger the -always dense- traffic.

In some places in Alaska, the road is the runway. The pilot makes a low pass to let everyone know he's coming in, circles around and lands.

Actually, I'm not sure if it's like that still - it was when I lived there.
 
AlephZero said:
Same in the UK, but these guys made quite a "creative" interpretation of "not landing on a road..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

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The root cause was a mechanical failure, followed by the flight crew wrongly diagnosing whcih engine had failed. (Not a good call, on a two-engine plane).



Yes I studied that mishap. It was a combination of very poor cockpit ergonomics, ie in the layout of engine instruments and aircrew coordination aka confusion.

It exactly the kind of mishap that made me make an unexpected support case for single pilot operation in this thread. Then only one pilot had to figure out what the affected engine was.
 
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