Variation of electric field and potential along the axis of a cone

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The discussion revolves around the variation of electric field and potential along the axis of a cone, focusing on the relationships between current density, electric field, and potential. Participants are exploring the implications of changing geometrical parameters on these quantities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand how the electric field (E), potential (V), and radius (R) relate to each other as the distance from the cone's apex changes. Questions about the constancy of current (I) and the behavior of current density (J) are raised, alongside requests for algebraic expressions to clarify these relationships.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the quantities involved, with some participants questioning assumptions about the behavior of J and E. Guidance has been offered regarding the need for more precise definitions and algebraic attempts to clarify the situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note missing information in the original problem setup, such as axis labels and the exact wording of the question. There is also a recognition of the need to clarify how E and R depend on the variable 'a'.

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Homework Statement
The electric field intensity potential and rate of heat generation per unit length aare E,V and H at a section distant a from left end of a conical shaped conductor connected to a battery of emf E.Find the correct options-:
Options are in attempt at a solution
Relevant Equations
J=sigmaE
V=IR
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Options are at the top of page as a) b) c) d)
Answer may more than one.
Now since 'a' is distance from the smaller surface of cone so as we move along the axis area will increase,So current charge density will decrease and as we know J=sigma E,E will decrease,but V will remain constant since V=Er and r is increasing and E decreasing.Now i don't if this is correct or not and further how will i find the relation between H and a and H and E.
 
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Your image misses the X axis label in d).
Please post the text of the question word for word, as another image say. Your precis is a bit vague.
If three quantities V, E and R are related by V=ER where R is increasing and E is decreasing, it does not follow that E is constant. You need to know more precisely how E and R depend on a.

Please post algebraic attempts at how E and V vary with a, perhaps as differential equations.
 
haruspex said:
Your image misses the X axis label in d).
Please post the text of the question word for word, as another image say. Your precis is a bit vague.
If three quantities V, E and R are related by V=ER where R is increasing and E is decreasing, it does not follow that E is constant. You need to know more precisely how E and R depend on a.

Please post algebraic attempts at how E and V vary with a, perhaps as differential equations.
In option d 'a' is on x axis.So how should i proceed further.
 
haruspex said:
Your image misses the X axis label in d).
Please post the text of the question word for word, as another image say. Your precis is a bit vague.
If three quantities V, E and R are related by V=ER where R is increasing and E is decreasing, it does not follow that E is constant. You need to know more precisely how E and R depend on a.

Please post algebraic attempts at how E and V vary with a, perhaps as differential equations.
Can you tell me which quantity will remain constant as move along axis.Is it I
 
Physics lover said:
Can you tell me which quantity will remain constant as move along axis.Is it I
Yes. In any period of time, the flow of charge into a given disc slice of the cone must equal the flow out.
 
haruspex said:
Yes. In any period of time, the flow of charge into a given disc slice of the cone must equal the flow out.
Ok i think i got it.since I is constant and J is increasing therefore E should increase by J=sigmaE. Am i coorect?
 
Physics lover said:
Ok i think i got it.since I is constant and J is increasing therefore E should increase by J=sigmaE. Am i coorect?
I don’t know what J represents in this context, nor what Es are being summed.
 
haruspex said:
I don’t know what J represents in this context, nor what Es are being summed.
J is current density.and J=sigma E is ohms law.Now can you help please.
 
Physics lover said:
J is increasing therefore E should increase by J=sigmaE.
But here you wrote
Physics lover said:
current charge density will decrease and as we know J=sigma E,E will decrease,
Why have you switched?
 
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haruspex said:
But here you wrote

Why have you switched?
Very sorry for the first one.That was wrong J will decrease as area is increasing isn't it.
 
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Physics lover said:
Very sorry for the first one.That was wrong J will decrease as area is increasing isn't it.
Can you please help me further.I could only tell about J and I.
 
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Physics lover said:
Can you please help me further.I could only tell about J and I.
I think it will help if you are more specific about the algebraic relationship.
Consider a thin disc width da at distance a from the point of the cone. What is its resistance? What is the potential across it? How much power is dissipated in it?
 

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