Vector Potential A: Discontinuity at the surface current

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The discussion revolves around proving an equation related to vector potential in the context of surface currents in electromagnetism. The original poster is attempting to understand the implications of partial derivatives with respect to a normal vector at a surface and how it relates to the equations provided.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the meaning of partial derivatives with respect to the normal vector and questions the relevance of certain equations in the context of a 2D surface. Other participants inquire about the clarity of the problem statement and suggest exploring definitions and examples related to magnetic vector potential.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on the definitions and implications of the equations involved. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's difficulty in understanding the problem, and suggestions have been made to consult additional resources or seek guidance from a professor.

Contextual Notes

The problem is derived from a textbook on Electricity and Magnetism, and there is a noted lack of detailed explanation regarding the normal derivative in the context of the problem. The original poster is considering the dimensionality of the surface and how it affects the application of current density.

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Homework Statement


Prove Eqn. 1 (below) using Eqns. 2-4. [Suggestion: I'd set up Cartesian coordinates at the surface, with z perpendicular to the surface and x parallel to the current.]

Homework Equations



I used ϑ for partial derivatives.

Eqn. 1: ϑAabove/ϑn - ϑAbelow/ϑn = -μ0K
Eqn. 2:A = 0
Eqn. 3: Babove - Bbelow = μ0(K × n-hat)
Eqn. 4: Aabove = Abelow

The Attempt at a Solution



Conceptually, I'm mostly stuck at the partial derivatives with respect to n. n is just a normal vector to a plane surface. It will flip completely as soon as you go from looking at points below the surface to points above the surface.

I've taken Eqn. 3 and plugged in B = × A to get:
× Aabove - × Abelow = μ0(K × n-hat)

It looks pretty close, but by Eqn. 4, the two terms on the left should be equal and thus everything is zero. That's hardly going to help.

The usefulness of Eqn. 2 seems dubious to me, but it would be useful if I need find A using Poisson's equation, which is only possible by Eqn. 2.

2A = -μ0J

But then again, the surface is 2D so J doesn't really fit.

I need a nudge in the right direction. Help?
 
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Hello coaster,

I notice you didn't get much response. Speaking for myself, I didn't react because you made it difficult to understand what this is about. Perhaps you can provide a description and some context.

Also I haven't seen many ##\partial\over \partial\hat n## in my career (there must be a reason for that! think about what it's supposed to mean...), so I don't know what you mean and where you get that equation.

All the best,
BvU
 
Thanks for replying. This is a problem from a book on Electricity and Magnetism that my university is using. I don't really understand the partial derivative over n-hat myself, and the book doesn't mention it in detail.

I'll drop this topic and ask my professor if he knows.
 
Either that, or you check out a few "magnetic vector potential examples", e.g. here : last eqn in 5.6 shows that the partial derivative isn't ##
\partial\over \partial\hat n## but ##\partial\vec A \over \partial n##, by which they mean its normal derivative - so in your case ##{\partial A_x \over \partial z},{\partial A_y \over \partial z},{\partial A_z \over \partial z}## (two of which are 0).

Also http://maktabkhooneh.org/files/library/eng/electrical/7.pdf eqn 5.76 .
 

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