Vector space for cross products?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the vector space in which cross products are defined, exploring both the standard three-dimensional case and potential generalizations to higher dimensions. Participants examine definitions and properties related to cross products in various dimensional contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the standard definition of the cross product is limited to three-dimensional vectors.
  • Another participant suggests there may be a more general form of the cross product applicable to other dimensions but admits uncertainty about the specifics.
  • A third participant provides a definition involving the "alternating tensor" in m dimensions, proposing a method to define the cross product for n-1 vectors in n dimensions.
  • A fourth participant describes a method for determining a unique vector, referred to as the cross product, by taking the determinant of a matrix formed by n vectors acting on another vector.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dimensionality of the cross product and its generalizations, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a consensus on a singular definition or approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of the alternating tensor and the implications of defining cross products in higher dimensions, which remain unresolved.

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What vector space are cross products done in?
 
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If you're talking about the standard definition, it's only defined for vectors in three dimensions, so anything that has three dimensions you could do the cross product in. Why?

It occurs to me that I think there's a more general form for other dimensions, but I don't know it
 
A more general definition is this: Let [itex]\epsilon_{ijk...m}[/itex] be the "alternating tensor" in m dimensions: +1 if ijk...m is an even permutation of 123...n, -1 if an odd permutation, 0 otherwise. Then we can define the "cross product" of n-1 vectors [itex]v_1[/itex], [itex]v_2[/itex], ..., [itex]v_{n-1}[/itex] to be the vector [itex]v= \Sigma \epsilon_{ij...m}v_{1i}v_{2j}...v_{n-1,m}[/itex] where the sum is take over repeated indices. If n= 3 then that gives the cross product on R2.
 
given n-1 vectors in n dimensions, let them act on another vector w by taking the detrminant of the mtrix the n vectors form togetehjr. that gives alinear \map of w, which is thus dotting with aunique vector caled the cross product of the first n-1 vectors.
 

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