Vector Space: Valid Addition Defined

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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive inverse.
 
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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive identity.

Hi Shackleford! :smile:

The problem is that the additive identity is not (0,0) here. Indeed, the additive identity (a,b) must satisfy

(x,y)+(a,b)=(x,y)

and thus

(x+a,yb)=(x,y)

but with (a,b)=(0,0), we have

(x,y)+(0,0)=(x+0,y0)=(x,0)

which is not what we wanted. So (0,0) is not the additive identity. Can you figure out what is?
 
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Shackleford said:
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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive identity.

But the identity isn't (0,0) is it? What is the identity?
 
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Wait second. I meant additive inverse, not identity.
 
Shackleford said:
Wait second. I meant additive inverse, not identity.

I know you did. But you assumed that (0,0) was the additive identity, which is not true!
 
micromass said:
I know you did. But you assumed that (0,0) was the additive identity, which is not true!

No. I didn't. I did not state what the additive identity is. The additive identity would have to be (0,1).
 
Oh, I see now.

I completely overlooked that part.
 
Even still, I could define b2 = (a2)-1.

Oops. What if it's zero. Then, it doesn't work.
 
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