Cov(X,Y) Distribution Function

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The discussion revolves around calculating the distribution function and covariance of random variables X and Y, particularly focusing on the integration limits and the conditions imposed by the density function. Participants are exploring the implications of the density function's restrictions on the integration process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss breaking the distribution function calculation into cases based on geometric considerations. Questions arise regarding the necessity of splitting integrals and the inherent conditions of the density function. There is also exploration of setting up double integrals and the implications of variable transformations.

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Some participants have confirmed their understanding of the integration limits based on the conditions of the density function. Others are seeking clarification on how to approach specific parts of the problem, particularly regarding variable transformations and the setup of integrals.

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For (4), when I calculated the Distribution Function, I had to break it up into two cases whether or not the point was above or below the line.

For (6.c), I got the right answer for the Cov(X,Y), but I didn't break up the double integral into two cases. Is this because since the density function has the condition that y is less than or equal to x, it is inherent to the double integral? That's why I was able to set the limits of integration of y from 0 to x?

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Shackleford said:
For (4), when I calculated the Distribution Function, I had to break it up into two cases whether or not the point was above or below the line.
I couldn't see the picture for 4.
For (6.c), I got the right answer for the Cov(X,Y), but I didn't break up the double integral into two cases. Is this because since the density function has the condition that y is less than or equal to x, it is inherent to the double integral? That's why I was able to set the limits of integration of y from 0 to x?
Yes, that's correct since the restriction on x is that it must be positive but the restriction on y is that it is bounded by x so we could write that 0 < x < ∞ and 0 < y < x and it turns out from there we get our limits of integration with respect to x and y. I'm assuming you found E(X) = 2 and E(Y) = 1 since you found E(XY) = 3(which was calculated perfectly).
 


Leptos said:
I couldn't see the picture for 4.

Yes, that's correct since the restriction on x is that it must be positive but the restriction on y is that it is bounded by x so we could write that 0 < x < ∞ and 0 < y < x and it turns out from there we get our limits of integration with respect to x and y. I'm assuming you found E(X) = 2 and E(Y) = 1 since you found E(XY) = 3(which was calculated perfectly).

Yes. I found the means all right.

I'm not sure how to start (a). The problem looks easy enough, though.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/camarolt4z28/Untitled-4.png?t=1302983928

I assume in the uv-plane I draw the line v = z - u. I then setup a double integral ∫∫e-z dudv.

I'm looking for P(Z ≤ z). This would be everything integrated above the line in the shaded region.
 
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Shackleford said:
Yes. I found the means all right.

I'm not sure how to start (a). The problem looks easy enough, though.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/camarolt4z28/Untitled-4.png?t=1302983928

I assume in the uv-plane I draw the line v = z - u. I then setup a double integral ∫∫e-z dudv.

I'm looking for P(Z ≤ z). This would be everything integrated above the line in the shaded region.
Actually the change of variables would transform the original density f(x,y) = e-(x+y) to a function of z alone, i.e, f(z) = e-z whose only restriction is that 0 < z and now all you have to do is apply the definition of the cumulative density function: F(Z) = P(X ≤ x).
 
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Leptos said:
Actually the change of variables would transform the original density f(x,y) = e-(x+y) to a function of z alone, i.e, f(z) = e-z whose only restriction is that 0 < z and now all you have to do is apply the definition of the cumulative density function: F(Z) = P(X ≤ x).

I assume I integrate f(z) = e-z. What the heck are my variables and limits of integration? 0 to infinity? dx and dy? Double or single integral?

If there weren't a change of variables, I would calculate a double integral fX,Y(x,y) = e-(u+v) with du and dv from 0 to x and 0 to y respectively.
 
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