Vectors componenets relative motion help

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The discussion revolves around calculating the relative velocities of two airplanes taxiing towards a terminal. Plane 1 travels at 12.1 m/s due north, while Plane 2 moves at 6.3 m/s at an angle of 21.2° north of west. The initial attempt involved vector addition, but the correct approach requires vector subtraction to determine relative velocity. The correct method involves calculating the velocities of each plane relative to a common ground reference. Understanding this distinction is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Hello. I was wondering if you guys could help me tell me why i am getting this problem wrong.

Two airplanes taxi as they approach the terminal. Plane 1 taxies with a speed of 12.1 m/s due north. Plane 2 taxies with a speed of 6.3 m/s in a direction 21.2° north of west.
(a) What are the direction and magnitude of the velocity of plane 1 relative to plane 2?
Direction _______° north of east
Magnitude ________m/s

(b) What are the direction and magnitude of the velocity of plane 2 relative to plane 1?
Direction ______° south of west
Magnitude ________ m/s

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I First drew out a parallelogram with the magnitude and direction of plane 1 then drew plane 2's tail to the head of plane 1 to visualize the problem. Next i used components of a vector to solve for the magnitude and direction.

plane 1 -> x = 12.1 cos 90 =0
plane 2 -> x = 6.3 cos 21.2 = 5.874

plane 1 -> y = 12.1 sin 90 = 12.1
plane 2 -> y = 6.3 sin 21.2 = 2.278

I added the vectors (5.874 m/s) x + (14.38 m/s) y

To find the magnitude of the resultant i got sq root (5.874 m/s)^2 + (14.38 m/s)^2 = 15.53

theta = inverse tan (14.378/5.8736) = 67.78 degrees

b) I was confused on this one. I thought that from plane 2 the angle would be 67.78 + 180 = 247.8 degrees with the same magnitude of 15.53?

I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me out and let me know what i did wrong. Thanks so much! :)
 
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Hi P944! :smile:
P944 said:
Two airplanes taxi as they approach the terminal. Plane 1 taxies with a speed of 12.1 m/s due north. Plane 2 taxies with a speed of 6.3 m/s in a direction 21.2° north of west.
(a) What are the direction and magnitude of the velocity of plane 1 relative to plane 2?

I First drew out a parallelogram with the magnitude and direction of plane 1 then drew plane 2's tail to the head of plane 1

No, that will add the velocities.

For a relative velocity, you always need to subtract.

If g is "ground", then you want V12, which = V1g + Vg2 = V1g - V2g :wink:

(if you draw arrows, this should be obvious)
 
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