Vectors were introduced because they help physicists specify laws

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Vectors are essential for physicists as they specify laws without relying on a specific coordinate system. The position vector does depend on the chosen origin, but this does not negate its status as a vector; it remains a mathematical object defined by its properties. While the representation of a vector may change with different coordinate systems, the vector itself and its relationships, such as the relative position between points, remain constant. This invariance is crucial for understanding physical laws independently of coordinate systems. Ultimately, the focus on vector relationships rather than their representations is key in physics.
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vectors were introduced because they help physicists specify laws without reference to any
particular coordinate system...can we then say that position vector is really a vector because
after all it depends on where we choose our origin?
 
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Vectors are necessary to describe things which have both direction and magnitude such as velocity, acceleration, torque, momentum.

The position vector does change magnitude and direction depending on where you place your origin, you're right. This doesn't mean it's no longer a vector... a vector is just a mathematical object. You still describe the position as components multiplied by unit vectors no matter where the origin.
 


amit_thakur said:
vectors were introduced because they help physicists specify laws without reference to any
particular coordinate system...can we then say that position vector is really a vector because
after all it depends on where we choose our origin?
Vector itself does not depend on the coordinate system. What you write down as <x, y, z> is just a representation of a vector in a specific coordinate system. The representation changes with coordinate system, but the vector does not.

Vector itself is an abstract object that simply follows a set of axioms outlined here.

So if you have points at vector coordinates a and b, the relative position of b with respect to a is always b-a. Again, the representation can change from coordinate system to coordinate system, but the relative position will never be anything other than b-a.

In other words, what is preserved under coordinate system transformation is the relationships between the vectors, rather than their representations, which is significantly more important when you are doing physics independent from coordinate system.
 
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