Velma and Mort's ice cream is melting special relativity problem. Help please.

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Velma and Mort's ice cream melting problem involves calculating how fast Velma must move for her ice cream to last three times longer than Mort's, as observed by Mort. The discussion highlights the use of time dilation concepts from special relativity, specifically referencing the Lorentz Transform and the time dilation formula T = T0 / √(1-v²/c²). It is suggested that Velma's speed should be between 0.9c and 0.99c, with calculations indicating a speed of approximately 0.94c. Participants emphasize the importance of algebraic methods over interpolation from tables for accuracy. The conversation concludes with a focus on applying the correct formula to derive the necessary speed.
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Homework Statement



Velma and Mort have identical 10-minute melting ice-cream cones. How fast must Velma move in order for her 10-minute cone to last 3 times longer than Mort’s, as measured by Mort?

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We have not gotten too in depth into mathematics in my class as it mainly focuses on conceptual understanding and estimates. I looked at a table in my textbook and it says that at 0.9 c there is a time dilation of 2.3 and then it jumps to say that at 0.99 c the time dilation is 7.1 so if Mort observes Velma's ice-cream melt slower by a factor of 3...then shouldn't she be moving slightly faster than 0.9 c and slower than 0.99 c? Would that be a reasonable answer? or is there another way to determine the time dilation? Thanks!
 
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Apart from looking in a graph of the gamma factor or using the actual formula to derive it (it is not very complicated), interpolating in tables is what you are left with.
 
The math is simple algebra. Look up Lorentz Transform. I don't know Latex or I'd put it here for you. It looks so elegant when written properly and ugly when written with just text symbols. It works out to about .94c
 
Hello,

Thanks for the reply. I think I would like to give this an algebraic try rather than sticking to my textual description...so...is this the right formula?

T = T0 / √(1-v2/c2)

If that is the correct formula... is c = speed of light, v= relative speed between two observers (by relative would it just be the difference in speed between Mort and Velma? so, 3?), T= Mort's view of Velma's time? T0 = 1 ?
 
Yep, that's the one. Just plug in "Pc" for v (Percentage of c) and cancel the "c"s and solve for P with T/T0 = 3
 
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