Velocity of Car after Unloading Gravel

  • Thread starter Thread starter jeeves_17
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Car Velocity
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a railroad car with an initial mass and velocity that experiences a change in mass due to the addition of a load of gravel. The discussion centers around determining the car's speed after the gravel is added, utilizing principles of momentum conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum as a method to find the final speed of the car after the gravel is added. Some express confusion about the correctness of their calculations and the potential discrepancies with provided answers.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with multiple participants sharing their calculations and interpretations. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their results, while others suggest that the book's answer may be incorrect. The discussion reflects a collaborative exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption of ignoring friction and the initial velocity of the gravel in their calculations. There is mention of frustration regarding conflicting answers from the textbook.

jeeves_17
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
1. A 10,000 kg railroad car is rolling at 2.00m/s when a 4000kg load of gravel is suddenly dropped in. What is the car’s speed just after the gravel is loaded?



Relevant Equations

W = 1/2 mv(f)^2 - 1/2 mv(i)^2

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]

W = 1/2 (14,000kg)v(f)^2 - 1/2(10,000)(2.0)^2


I'm lost:$
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The most I can guess is that consider momentum to be conserved..you can find the initial momentum and then you can formulate the final and they should be equal
 
Pi= mi*vi
= (10 000)(2.0)
= 20 000

Pi = Pf = 20 000

Pf = mf*vf
Vf = Pf/mf
= 20 000/14 000
= 1.42857
= 1.43 m/s


?
 
Yes that would seem feasible as if it is heavier it would travel slower
 
If you ignore friction and the initial velocity of the gravel then you can use conservation of momentum with ease.
2*10000 = V * (4000 + 10000)

I got 1.43m/s too. Explain the "?" Did you check it with the answer key and it's wrong or are you saying "is this right"? I'd say it's right.
 
? meaning is it right...sorry for the confusion
 
I did this same problem and got 1.43 m/s, but the books answer says .143 m/s. I was getting frustrated until I saw these posts. I guess the key is wrong.
 

Similar threads

Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
6K
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K