Velocity of Car after Unloading Gravel

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A 10,000 kg railroad car moving at 2.00 m/s has a gravel load of 4,000 kg dropped into it, prompting a discussion on the car's new speed. Using conservation of momentum, the initial momentum is calculated as 20,000 kg·m/s, leading to a final speed of approximately 1.43 m/s after the gravel is added. Participants express confusion over a discrepancy with an answer key that suggests a speed of 0.143 m/s, which they believe is incorrect. The consensus is that the calculations supporting 1.43 m/s are valid, reinforcing the principle that a heavier load results in a slower speed. The discussion highlights the importance of verifying answers against established physics principles.
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1. A 10,000 kg railroad car is rolling at 2.00m/s when a 4000kg load of gravel is suddenly dropped in. What is the car’s speed just after the gravel is loaded?



Relevant Equations

W = 1/2 mv(f)^2 - 1/2 mv(i)^2

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]

W = 1/2 (14,000kg)v(f)^2 - 1/2(10,000)(2.0)^2


I'm lost:$
 
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The most I can guess is that consider momentum to be conserved..you can find the initial momentum and then you can formulate the final and they should be equal
 
Pi= mi*vi
= (10 000)(2.0)
= 20 000

Pi = Pf = 20 000

Pf = mf*vf
Vf = Pf/mf
= 20 000/14 000
= 1.42857
= 1.43 m/s


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Yes that would seem feasible as if it is heavier it would travel slower
 
If you ignore friction and the initial velocity of the gravel then you can use conservation of momentum with ease.
2*10000 = V * (4000 + 10000)

I got 1.43m/s too. Explain the "?" Did you check it with the answer key and it's wrong or are you saying "is this right"? I'd say it's right.
 
? meaning is it right...sorry for the confusion
 
I did this same problem and got 1.43 m/s, but the books answer says .143 m/s. I was getting frustrated until I saw these posts. I guess the key is wrong.
 
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