Velocity, traveling distance and friction force on a sliding object

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The discussion centers on the sliding dynamics of two metal strips, A and B, which are initially pushed to the same velocity but differ in their orientation during sliding. Object A slides straight, while object B rotates to an angle of 45 degrees as it slides. The key point is that friction plays a crucial role in determining how quickly each object stops, with the frictional forces needing to be compared to answer which object travels a shorter distance. The conversation highlights that the angle of rotation affects the friction experienced by object B, potentially leading to a different stopping distance compared to object A. Ultimately, understanding the frictional forces is essential for solving the problem accurately.
  • #51
Javad said:
I think due to mass and fast rotation (that happens for object B), object B experiences inertial pulls in the opposite direction of rotation at the center of mass thus the object would have the tendency to skid towards the opposite direction of rotation (probably it is the actual heading direction), while there is lateral friction for object on the opposite side, therefore if the skidding force be greater than the lateral friction the object can slide but there is a waste of energy (velocity or force, actually I don’t know what!) in comparison with object A. (Please find attached image).
You have a misconception.

At t1, B has stopped rotating; it has no ‘memory’ of how it was rotating previously (between t0 and t1).

Suppose, there is another identical object, C which (at t0) starts with its angle θ=45º. C then moves, with no rotation, and at time t1, C is also traveling left at 20m/s.

At t1, the motions of B and C are identical. After t1, C moves in exactly the same way as B.

The ‘histories’ of B and C are different, but they are in exactly the same state at t1. So they continue to move in the exactly same way. Their ‘histories’ don’t have any effect.

The fact that B had been rotating earlier is irrelevant.
 
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  • #52
Steve4Physics said:
is irrelevant
There is no more object, just A and B, I think the image shows all details. you say the rotation is irrelevant, but I think a huge value of velocity is wasted under an unknown process (unknown for me yet) and I try to find its answer through this thread or talking with the experts on physics and mechanical engineering. For me car drifting is a keyword and I will focus on it to help me find an answer to my question.
 
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  • #53
Javad said:
There is no more object, just A and B,
I know. I added a 3rd object (C) for comparison with B, to explan a particular point.

Javad said:
For me car drifting is a keyword and I will focus on it to help me find an answer to my question.
Is A meant to be a car sliding (locked brakes) and B is a car drifting at 45º (brakes locked or unlocked?)? If so, you need to tell us.

Sorry I haven't been able to help. Good luck.
 
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Thank you for your time, I learned a lot. I follow your youtube channel that is very helpful for me.
 
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