Verifying Line Integrals Using Vector Value Functions

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The discussion revolves around verifying the evaluation of a line integral, specifically the integral of the form ∫_c (x²y dx + x dy) along a specified path from (1,2) to (0,0). The original poster employs a vector-valued function approach to compute the integral, contrasting it with a method presented in a textbook.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster describes their method using a vector-valued function and seeks validation of their approach. They express concern about the correctness of their method compared to the textbook's approach, which uses parameter substitution for x and y. Other participants discuss the validity of both methods, suggesting that both vector representation and parameter dependence are acceptable.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methodologies for evaluating line integrals. Some guidance has been provided regarding the equivalence of the two approaches, but no consensus has been reached on a preferred method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note differences in approaches to line integrals, highlighting the original poster's use of vector-valued functions versus the textbook's method of substituting parameters directly into the integral. There is an acknowledgment of varying experiences in applying these concepts, particularly in the context of electromagnetism.

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I want to verify I am doing this correctly first:

Evaluate##\int_c (x^2ydx+xdy)## where the line is from (1,2) to (0.0)

My method is different from the book, I am using vector value function method where ##<x(t),y(t)>-(x_0,y_0>=t\frac {d\vec r}{dt}## and ##\vec r=\hat x x(t)+\hat y y(t)## and ##\vec r'(t)= \hat x \frac{dx(t)}{dt}+\hat y \frac{dy(t)}{dt}##

We know ##\vec r_0=<1,2>\;\Rightarrow\; \vec r(t)=<1,2>+t(\hat x \frac{dx(t)}{dt}+\hat y \frac{dy(t)}{dt})##

Use 0≤t≤1 ##\Rightarrow x=1-t## and ##y=2-2t##. Therefore ##\vec r'(t)=\frac{d\vec r}{dt}=-\hat x -\hat 2y##. And ##\vec r(t)= <1,2>+t<-1,-2>=\hat x (1-t)-\hat y (2-2t)##. And ##\frac{dx(t)}{dt}=-1## and ##\frac {d y(t)}{dt}=-2##.

Therefore ##\int_c (x^2ydx+xdy)=\int_0^1 [(1-t)^2 (2-2t)(-dt)+(1-t)(-2dt)]=-\frac 3 2##

I know the final integral and the answer is correct according to the book already. That I don't need to verify. I just want to make sure the way I use vector value function approach is correct.
 
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the more basic question is that from my experience in EM, the normal way of line integral is ##\int_c f(xyz) dl## where l is the path of the integration. But this problem is using dx and dy and the book substitute t into x and y instead of using vector value function like I do. So which way is correct?
 
yungman said:
the more basic question is that from my experience in EM, the normal way of line integral is ##\int_c f(xyz) dl## where l is the path of the integration. But this problem is using dx and dy and the book substitute t into x and y instead of using vector value function like I do. So which way is correct?

Whether you explicitly write things as vectors or just keep track of the parameter dependence without doing so doesn't make any difference. Both ways are correct.
 
Thanks.
 

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