Vertical and Horizontal Asymptotes

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The discussion focuses on finding vertical and horizontal asymptotes for the function 2x^2/√(x^4-81). A vertical asymptote occurs at x=3, with additional asymptotes identified by solving x^4-81=0, leading to x=±3. The square root in the denominator limits the function's domain to x<-3 or x>3, affecting the asymptotic behavior. For large values of x, the function approaches a horizontal asymptote at y=2. Understanding the impact of the square root on the denominator is crucial for determining the asymptotes accurately.
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Homework Statement


What are the vertical and horizontal asymptotes for:
2x2/ SQRT(x4-81)?



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The Attempt at a Solution


For one VA, I got x=3. Are there any more? I am troubled with this square root on the bottom.
 
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Practically, what the square root on the bottom does is two things:
1) It limits where the function can be defined. If x4>81, then the function is not defined. It also has the potential to make asymptotic behavior different... an example is something like

\frac{x-1}{ \sqrt{(x^4-1)(x-1)}}

At first glance it appears to have an asymptote at x=1 and x=-1, but the x-1 at the top cancels with the x-1 in the denominator (you can see this by factoring the denominator) in the limit as x approaches 1, so no asymptotic behavior occurs.

What's required for a zero in the denominator to cause a vertical asymptote is for there to be no canceling zeroes, or not enough canceling zeroes at least, in the numerator. Having a square root can effect this as it effectively "halves" the power of the zero in the denominator.

You definitely have at least one more vertical asymptote. For what x is x4-81=0? You should be able to fully solve this (either by factoring or by noticing you can set x2=y and solving y2-81=0 first)
 
You got x4-81=x4-34=(x2-32)(x2+32)

Can you determine the other values for x for which the denominator is 0 ?
 
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For very large x (but negative since x cannot be larger than \sqrt[4]{81}) we can ignore the "81" in comparison with the "x4". Then 2x^2/\sqrt{x^4- 81} is approximately 2x^2/\sqrt[4]{x^4}.
 
HallsofIvy said:
For very large x (but negative since x cannot be larger than \sqrt[4]{81}
Oh? So x must be less than \sqrt[4]{81}? I didn't know we were searching for complex solutions as well :-p Please consider revising this sentence.

x^4 is positive for all real x, not just negative x.

Therefore, the domain is only defined where \sqrt{x^4-81}&gt; 0

If you know how to solve this, it leaves x<-3, x>3

HallsofIvy said:
we can ignore the "81" in comparison with the "x4". Then 2x^2/\sqrt{x^4- 81} is approximately 2x^2/\sqrt[4]{x^4}.

Just to fix the denominator up slightly: for large \pm x the function tends towards y=\frac{2x^2}{\sqrt{x^4}} so you can simplify this and this will give you the horizontal asymptote :smile:
 
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