VERY quick cross product question

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the expression involving the cross product of vectors, specifically the expression p X q - r. Participants are exploring the order of operations in vector mathematics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants discuss the order of operations, debating whether to perform the cross product first or the subtraction. There is an exploration of how the notation might influence the interpretation of the expression.

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Participants are actively engaging with differing viewpoints on the order of operations. Some have provided justifications based on arithmetic rules, while others highlight the unique nature of vector operations. No consensus has been reached, but the discussion is productive.

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There is an underlying assumption regarding the precedence of operations in vector mathematics that is being questioned. Participants are considering how standard arithmetic rules apply to vector operations.

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p X q - r

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In order to evaluate this expression, I must first evaluate q - r and then perform the cross product, right? I'm trying to think about X as an operator, like del, that operates on the things that appear after it. Is this correct?

Thanks.
 
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I would think it's the other way around: that you do the cross product first, and then subtract. The only justification I can think of for doing it this way comes from arithmetic--that multiplication and division are to be done before addition and subtraction.

For example, the expression 2*4 - 3 = 8 - 3 = 5. I don't recall seeing this idea extended to vector cross products, though.

The symbol X used in cross products affects the two things on either side of it, not just what follows it, so for that reason it is different from the del operator or the differentiation operator.
 
Yes, I agree with Mark44. By the standard "precedence" of operations, [itex]p \times q- r[/itex] means [itex](p\times q)- r[/itex], not [itex]p\times (q- r)[/itex]
 
Same with del … ∇A - B ≠ ∇(A - B) :smile:
 

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