News Vigilantism - consequences of taking the 'law' unto oneself

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The Las Vegas shooting, initially perceived as a road rage incident, has been revealed as a tragic exchange of gunfire between neighbors, highlighting the dangers of vigilantism. Experts note that actual road rage killings are rare, emphasizing a growing trend in America where individuals resort to extra-judicial actions due to rising crime and police cutbacks. The case raises concerns about the implications of mixing firearms with high emotions, particularly as justifiable homicides in places like Detroit have surged dramatically. The incident involved a mother and her son, who allegedly sought out the shooter, raising questions about their decision-making and the escalation of conflict. As more details emerge, the narrative of innocent victims is complicated, suggesting a deeper issue of community safety and the consequences of taking the law into one's own hands.
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Las Vegas shooting: Not road rage, but cautionary vigilante tale?
A deadly shooting in Las Vegas was thought to be an episode of road rage among strangers. But it turns out to have been an exchange of gunfire between neighbors.

http://news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-shooting-not-road-rage-cautionary-vigilante-145548984.html
The revelations further underscore a point made by some experts: that pure road rage killings are exceedingly rare, especially in a country where drivers cover nearly 8 billion miles every day. That the Las Vegas shooting may turn out at least in part to be an act of citizen action gone tragically wrong adds another layer – that of cautionary tale about the dangers of mixing guns, high motions, and vigilantism.

The story comes in an era when, in some parts of America, growing numbers of people are deciding to solve problems outside the courts.

Amid high crime and police cutbacks, the rate of homicides ruled justifiable in Detroit is 2,200 percent higher than the US average, a result, in part, of growing vigilantism by groups that “consist of ordinary folk being victimized,” as the London Daily Mail noted in 2012.
A trend of increasing extra-judicial resolutions to conflicts is troubling. I'm concerned that it will result in a less safe environment.

As if 'stand your ground' isn't enough already.

Some additional background on the story
http://news.yahoo.com/road-rage-mistaken-identity-questions-raised-vegas-case-091610459.html
Police are looking for another suspect, possibly an acquaintance of Nowsch.
 
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Yeah this was very disturbing. Why try to confront the aggressive teen knowing he had a weapon and bringing your son along with a weapon too?
 
From what I've read, the story is confusing and the progression of events is unclear. There seems to be a missing person of interest who may have been involved.

But clearly, Mrs. Meyers should have called police and waited at home.
 
Yes it was said that she tried to help this troubled teen but couldn't reach him.
 
When I first heard this story, it was being reported as "an innocent mother shot as she came home from teaching her teenage daughter to drive". I thought that it was a terribly tragic story of murderous road rage.

A few days later it was reported that her son exchanged fire in the driveway. I thought that was an odd coincidence that he just happened to be in the driveway with a gun when the incident occurred.

Only after they captured Nowsch did more information start to come out that she wasn't as innocent as first reported. Now the reports are that she dropped off her daughter, picked up her son and his gun, and went looking for Nowsch. The police say that there were two shooting incidents - one of which occurred while they were driving around with a gun. There are also reports that the family knew who the shooter was for the entire week and didn't tell police.

I'll wait for the movie to come out and won't believe that either. ?:)
 
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