Voltage Across 10, 20uF Capacitors in RC Circuit

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of two capacitors (10 µF and 20 µF) connected in series within an RC circuit after being charged by a 100-volt battery and subsequently connected to a 2500-ohm resistor. Participants explore the voltage across the capacitors after one second, including relevant formulas and the implications of capacitor discharge over time.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Participants inquire about formulas relating voltage, capacitance, and charge, as well as the discharge of a capacitor over time.
  • There is a discussion on the charge Q flowing through the capacitors and the relationship between individual voltages and total voltage when capacitors are in series.
  • One participant suggests using the formula for combined capacitance in series, expressed as (1/(1/C1)+(1/C2)).
  • Another participant proposes applying the voltage discharge formula, initially misstating it before correcting to include a negative sign, indicating exponential decay of voltage.
  • Concerns are raised about the magnitude of the calculated voltage, leading to further clarification on the expected behavior of voltage decay in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the formulas to be used and the nature of voltage decay, but there is some confusion regarding the correct application of the discharge formula and the implications of the results, indicating unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the circuit, the definitions of terms used, and the mathematical steps involved in deriving the voltage across the capacitors.

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Two capacitors of value 10, 20 microfarads are
connected in series. Then charged with a 100 volt battery. If the capacitors is
disconnected from the battery, and then connected to a 2500
ohm resistor, what is the voltage across the capacitors after 1 second?
 
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LLand314 said:
Two capacitors of value 10, 20 microfarads are
connected in series. Then charged with a 100 volt battery. If the capacitors is
disconnected from the battery, and then connected to a 2500
ohm resistor, what is the voltage across the capacitors after 1 second?

Hi LLand314!

Can you come up with a couple of formulas that are applicable?

One for the relationship between voltage, capacity, and charge?
Another one for the discharge of a charged capacitor versus time?
And perhaps one for the combined capacity of 2 capacitors in series? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Hi LLand314!

Can you come up with a couple of formulas that are applicable?

One for the relationship between voltage, capacity, and charge?
Another one for the discharge of a charged capacitor versus time?
And perhaps one for the combined capacity of 2 capacitors in series? (Wondering)

these formulas?
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LLand314 said:
these formulas?

Yep.

When the capacitors get charged, a charge Q flows from the first to the second.
Afterwards, they both hold the same charge Q.

From your formulas, you can get that:
$$Q=C_1 V_1$$
$$Q=C_2 V_2$$
$$V_{total} = V_1 + V_2$$

What will the charge Q and the voltages be?
 
I like Serena said:
Yep.

When the capacitors get charged, a charge Q flows from the first to the second.
Afterwards, they both hold the same charge Q.

From your formulas, you can get that:
$$Q=C_1 V_1$$
$$Q=C_2 V_2$$
$$V_{total} = V_1 + V_2$$

What will the charge Q and the voltages be?

since the capacitors are in series can I just replace the 3 with a single using (1/(1/c1)+(1/c2))?
 
LLand314 said:
since the capacitors are in series can I just replace the 3 with a single using (1/(1/c1)+(1/c2))?

Yep, you can.
Since you didn't give a formula for the combined capacity of 2 capacitors in series, I assumed you didn't have that formula and had to do without.

Then the only thing left is to apply $V_C=V_0 e^{-t/RC}$.
 
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I like Serena said:
Yep, you can.
Since you didn't give a formula for the combined capacity of 2 capacitors in series, I assumed you didn't have that formula and had to do without.

Then the only thing left is to apply $V_C=V_0 e^{t/RC}$.
then 100e^(1/(2500*(6.666*10^-6)))?
 
LLand314 said:
then 100e^(1/(2500*(6.666*10^-6)))?

Yup! (Happy)
 
I like Serena said:
Yup! (Happy)

the voltage I get is a huge number how can it be so big?

edit: oh wait shouldn't it be Vc=V0e^(-t/rc)? a negative sign in the t/rc
 
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LLand314 said:
the voltage I get is a huge number how can it be so big?

edit: oh wait shouldn't it be Vc=V0e^(-t/rc)? a negative sign in the t/rc

Quite right!

(Hmm. That minus sign also seems to be missing in your picture. (Worried))
 
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I like Serena said:
Quite right!

(Hmm. That minus sign also seems to be missing in your picture. (Worried))

Yes I see that, strange.
anyhow so my voltage should be small correct?
 
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LLand314 said:
Yes I see that, strange.
anyhow so my voltage should be small correct?

Correct.
The voltage really decays exponentionally instead of increasing.
And it decays with a characteristic time that is also called the RC-time.
 

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