Voltage and Current Divider Equations for Simplified Circuit | Homework Solution

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The discussion revolves around solving a homework problem related to voltage and current divider equations in a simplified circuit. Participants explore circuit simplifications, current division, and voltage calculations, addressing specific resistor configurations and potential misunderstandings in the approach.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents equations for voltage and current dividers and describes their initial attempt at solving the circuit, noting confusion about calculating voltage across specific resistors.
  • Another participant clarifies that the voltage across the 150 and 75 ohm resistors is the same, suggesting a re-evaluation of the circuit simplification and total current calculation.
  • A third participant points out that the current through the 150 ohm and 40 ohm resistors may not be the same, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the current division approach.
  • A later reply describes a new approach to simplify the circuit and calculates a total resistance, while questioning the method for determining the resistance of the rest of the circuit excluding a specific resistor.
  • Another participant challenges the need for calculating the resistance of the rest of the circuit, suggesting that once branch currents are found, voltages can be determined using Ohm's law without further resistance calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to simplifying the circuit and calculating voltages and currents, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the accuracy of initial calculations and the implications of resistor configurations, highlighting potential limitations in the assumptions made during circuit simplification.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


  • Vx=Vt(Rx/(Rx+Rt))
  • Ix=It(Rt/(Rt+Rx))

The Attempt at a Solution


  • I first simplified the circuit to only one resistor to get the total It and got 0.0168 A.
  • I next made the split the circuit where there was a current Ia going through the 150 and 40 ohm resistors and a Ib going into the 75,60, and 30 ohm resistors.
  • I then used current division to get Ia and Ib.
Now here is where the trouble is? I think I can easily get v2, but how do I get v1? I don't understand what resistor I should use to calculate it.

Any help is much appreciated.
 
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##v_1## is across both the 150 and 75 Ohm resistors. That is, they share the same potential difference. So how are those resistors connected to each other?

You might also want to re-check your circuit simplification to find the total current. The value that you found doesn't look right to me. Share your work if you're unclear on any steps.
 
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roinujo1 said:
  • I next made the split the circuit where there was a current Ia going through the 150 and 40 ohm resistors and a Ib going into the 75,60, and 30 ohm resistors.
Maybe look at this sentence. The current going through 150 ohm and 40 ohm isn't exactly same.
 
Thanks for the responses. So, based on what was said, I tried it through a different approach
  • I simplified the circuit into one with 1 resistor with a Rtotal=135 ohms. I did this by saying that since the 150 and 75 ohm resistors have the same voltage, they are in parallel and combined them to make a 50 ohm resistor in series with the 40. This left me with two 90 ohm resistors in parallel that I combined and added the 90 ohm resistor near the voltage source. I found Itotal= 22.2 mA
  • Now, I used current division to get the current going through the 50 ohm(found from 150 and 75) and 40 ohm, which are now in series. Did the same with the 60 and 30 ohm resistors. However, when calculating the resistance for the rest of the circuit excluding Rx(lets say for the 60 and 30 in this case), would Rrest of circuit=(50+40)||(90)?
 
roinujo1 said:
However, when calculating the resistance for the rest of the circuit excluding Rx(lets say for the 60 and 30 in this case), would Rrest of circuit=(50+40)||(90)?
I didn't understand this. Why do you need resistance for rest of circuit? Once you've found the currents in the branches using current divider rule, you can find voltage across them using ohm's law.

The 50 and 40 ohm would be in parallel with 90 ohm on left, if there were another voltage source on right and you were using superposition theorem or if you were finding Thevenin's resistance seen from right side to left. But that's not needed here.

On a side note you can also solve the problem without finding currents in branches. Maybe try that and see if your answers match.
 

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