Voltmeter: Concept of Letting Rg Be Resistance of Galvanometer

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The discussion revolves around the concept of using a voltmeter in a circuit, specifically addressing the formula V=Ig(Rg+R) and the implications of the voltmeter's resistance on the voltage measurement. Participants explore the relationship between the voltmeter, its internal resistance, and the circuit element it is connected to, focusing on the potential drops involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about how the formula V=Ig(Rg+R) accounts for the potential drop across the circuit element being measured, suggesting that it only reflects the voltmeter's internal resistances.
  • Others argue that the voltmeter, when connected in parallel, will affect the voltage slightly and that the voltage across the voltmeter is the same as the voltage in the circuit.
  • A participant suggests that the formula is correct but may not be presented in the most useful form, proposing a rearrangement to Ig = V / (Rg + R) to clarify the relationship between voltage and current.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of the voltmeter's resistance on the circuit, with a participant noting that if the voltmeter's resistance is low, it may draw enough current to affect the voltage reading.
  • Another participant emphasizes that measurement devices like voltmeters and ammeters introduce their own resistance, which can disturb the circuit conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the formula or its implications for measuring voltage in a circuit. There are competing views on how the voltmeter's resistance interacts with the circuit being measured.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of the voltmeter's internal resistance being high enough to minimize its impact on the circuit, indicating a potential limitation in the measurement accuracy when the voltmeter's resistance is not sufficiently large.

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let Rg be the resistance of the galavanometer.

A formula in my book states that
V=Ig(Rg+R)

my doubt is:
here Ig(Rg+R) is the potential drop across the two resistors of the voltmeter.
But how can this include the potential drop by the circuit element across which the voltmeter is connected.
 
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While you have the voltmeter in circuit, it is in parallel with whatever it is connected to and may affect that voltage slightly.

There will be a voltage across the voltmeter which is the same as the voltage in the circuit.

This voltage causes a current to flow in the galvanometer which is calibrated to give a correct reading for whatever voltage it is connected to.

This calibration is done by adjusting the series resistor so that the combined voltmeter resistance causes exactly the right current to flow through the galvanometer for the applied voltage to match the voltage indicated on the voltmeter dial.
 
Is the formula correct?
 
Yes, the formula is correct.

Why do you have a problem with it?

Assuming the resistance of the voltmeter is large compared with the resistance it is being measured across, it will draw sufficient current to make the meter needle deflect and give a voltage reading.

Did you read the explanation I gave above?
 
I am weak at concepts of current electricity.
Here i am not understanding is ig(Rg+R) will give me voltage drop by the resistors of the voltmeter itself.
so the voltage measured by this formula will give me the voltage drop by its own resistors.How can i get the voltage drop done by a circuit component by using this formula.
 
The formula is correct, but maybe not appropriate in that form.

If you rearrange it to read Ig = V / (Rg + R) it becomes more useful.

The resistors are constant in value, so the current depends only on the voltage.

This is a voltmeter so the starting point must be the voltage. As you change the voltage, the current changes and so does the deflection on the galvanometer needle.
 
nil1996 said:
A formula in my book states that
V=Ig(Rg+R)

my doubt is:
here Ig(Rg+R) is the potential drop across the two resistors of the voltmeter.
But how can this include the potential drop by the circuit element across which the voltmeter is connected.
The circuit element doesn't count in this. the measured V is the Potential difference across the terminals. If the (total) resistance of the voltmeter is significantly low then the current it draws may affect the voltage situation at that part of the circuit (it is another resistance in parallel with the circuit element). This is why you need a voltmeter to have a high enough internal resistance for any current it takes to be 'negligible'. Remember, measurement of anything will disturb the system. The same problem exists with an Ammeter. All ammeters have some finite series resistance (non-zero) so the current passing through them will introduce a voltage drop, which affects the current..
The only way to measure the V and I reliably in a circuit is to leave the meters in place all the time. If you remove the meters then the Vs and Is all round the circuit will change minutely.
 

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