Volume and Diameter Increase of Balloon in Stratosphere: Physical Chem Question

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To calculate the increase in volume and diameter of a balloon rising from sea level to the stratosphere, the relationship between volume and temperature can be used, specifically v1/t1 = v2/t2. The initial temperature (t1) is 293K (20°C), while the stratospheric temperature (t2) is assumed to be 270K. Some participants suggest that pressure should also be considered, leading to the equation p1*v1/t1 = p2*v2/t2, but others argue that pressure can be assumed constant since it is not specified in the question. The discussion emphasizes the importance of temperature in determining volume changes in the balloon. Overall, the calculations hinge on the assumptions made about temperature and pressure conditions.
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Homework Statement


Calculate the factor by which the volume and the diameter of a balloon would increase as it rose from sea level and 20 degrees celsius to the stratosphere at 40km.


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PV=nRT

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I don't think I have enough information to solve?
 
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dont use pv=nrt
here take as you have a volume temperature relationship
so it would be v1/t1=v2/t2
and your t1 should be 293K (20 Celsius) and your t2 would be 270K assuming that the conditions in the stratosphere are at STP. and of course your v1 is 0 and your v2 is unknown :)
hope it helped or at least what the question is asking
 
Maz88 said:
dont use pv=nrt
here take as you have a volume temperature relationship
so it would be v1/t1=v2/t2
and your t1 should be 293K (20 Celsius) and your t2 would be 270K assuming that the conditions in the stratosphere are at STP. and of course your v1 is 0 and your v2 is unknown :)
hope it helped or at least what the question is asking

Don't I need to consider pressure? So I would use p1*v1/t1=p2*v2/t2. But I would need to be able to calculate pressure difference based on height? Any idea on how to do that?
 
youre right you need to consider pressure, but i think that since its not mentioned in the question then you got to assume that it is constant.
 
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