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lol, actually last time i checked we were borrowing money from china to finance the war over in iraq!LowlyPion said:
lol, actually last time i checked we were borrowing money from china to finance the war over in iraq!LowlyPion said:Who's paying for the wars?
Visa?
drankin said:What is the purpose of these extra taxes? Doesn't our government tax us enough?? Why do we want to give more of our hard earned money to the government?
Cyrus said:Hilarious. Because you make over $250k a year and have to worry about this.
Bill Maher is great on this. He said Joe the plumber is worried about this fantasy money he's going to be taxed on that he doesn't even have! A plumber does not make over $250k a year. Give me a breakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk...man.
If 90% of the people won't be affected, that's not spreading any of your 'average joes' wealth anywhere.
john16O said:so you are saying that it is OK to take someone else's money who work hard for it. And your are justifying it by saying that it is OK because it does not affect the majority of the people?..
john16O said:so you are saying that it is OK to take someone else's money who work hard for it. And your are justifying it by saying that it is OK because it does not affect the majority of the people?..
john16O said:lol buddy? ok...anywho, I am more worried about the precedent...if you can tax someone making 250k a year what is stopping obama from taxing someone making 100k a year?mmmkk pumpkin...
I doubt people making over $250K work 'hard' for it. They do deals. They gamble on Wall Street. The guy making $250 K, or $2 million, or $2 billion, does not work any harder than the guy digging ditches for minimum wage.john16O said:so you are saying that it is OK to take someone else's money who work hard for it. And your are justifying it by saying that it is OK because it does not affect the majority of the people?..
john16O said:lol...please read...
http://www.rushonline.com/visitors/16thamendment.htm
john16O said:lol...please read...
http://www.rushonline.com/visitors/16thamendment.htm
Cyrus said:Its called the congress, GUY.
I didnt know you were so worried about people making over $250k a year. Do you know many? Do you really think going back to the 90s tax rate is going to affect their lifestyle?
Cyrus said:Buddy, a person making over $250k a year can well afford to pay higher taxes for the common good of 90% of the society and still live a very very good life as the top 1% of the nation.
I didnt know you were so worried about your fantasy millions of dollars in your fantasy bank account Obama is going to raise...woooooooooooooooooooooo...back to pre-existing tax rates.
So was the USA a socialist country when we HAD these tax rates? Or are we simply making up BS excuses.
john16O said:Democrats hold a majority in the house and senate with a potential to have enough power to filibuster if this election pans out in their favor. If obama is elected, there is not going to be must protest in Congress to what he wants to get done. Look a Bill Clinton. When he had a majority democratic congress he was able to have is way. Than once republicans took majority he could not get squat passed...
john16O said:Look a Bill Clinton. When he had a majority democratic congress he was able to have is way.
drankin said:There is no reason to tax our EMPLOYERS more! Don't you get that? Those who make that kind of money are typically small business owners (I'm excluding doctors and lawyers). Folks who often worked for nothing for years to build their businesses up. Taxing them more is not encouraging entrepreneural activity, which was a significant reason the US has been so successful in the world market. The costs will "trickle down" to the working class.
It's not a fantasy to become a millionaire if one wants to pursue his own business. That's rather condescending towards those who take the risk to grow their businesses. An attitude like yours guarantees failure if you are an entrepreneur.
john16O said:Look a Bill Clinton. When he had a majority democratic congress he was able to have is way.
Ralph Nader thanks you.jimmysnyder said:There were no long lines when I got to the polling place. In fact there was no one there at all. It took me a while to figure out that the flier telling me that voting would take place at the city dump was probably wrong, so I went to the polling place I used last time. The situation was not much better, but at least there was someone there to record my vote. Like that other guy, I checked my ballot four times to make sure that I hadn't voted for the wrong candidate. Then, not to be outdone, I checked it a fifth time. Better yet, I checked it once to make sure that I did vote for the right one. Good thing too.
I didn't want to vote for McCain because of that Palin woman. She panders to people who are envious of the educated. Neither did I want to vote for Obama, who panders to people who are envious of the rich. And I didn't want to vote for the lesser of two evils either. So I didn't.
Cyrus said:Ok, allow me to make this clear. (1) he's not going to tax your pretend millions of dollars.
(2) The economy is in the toilet. If they try to tax the average joe (thats you and me by the way), people are going to be in an uproar.
So let's be a *little* realistic here.
turbo-1 said:Ralph Nader thanks you.
Ivan Seeking said:I love the voting system here in Oregon. Vote by mail is fantastic.
LowlyPion said:And this was bad for jobs and the economy was it?
drankin said:He already said as much to Joe the Plumber.
jimmysnyder said:There were no long lines when I got to the polling place. In fact there was no one there at all. It took me a while to figure out that the flier telling me that voting would take place at the city dump was probably wrong, so I went to the polling place I used last time. The situation was not much better, but at least there was someone there to record my vote. Like that other guy, I checked my ballot four times to make sure that I hadn't voted for the wrong candidate. Then, not to be outdone, I checked it a fifth time. Better yet, I checked it once to make sure that I did vote for the right one. Good thing too.
I didn't want to vote for McCain because of that Palin woman. She panders to people who are envious of the educated. Neither did I want to vote for Obama, who panders to people who are envious of the rich. And I didn't want to vote for the lesser of two evils either. So I didn't.
john16O said:lol you keep saying "pretend millions of dollars"...You do not have to make a million dollars to be considered middle-upper class. Anyone with a six-figure salary will be affected my obamas' policies..and yes, I know A LOT of people who are making 6 figure salaries. In today's society that is not something that is totally uncommon.
Cyrus said:Wait, you mean that fantasy $250k in your fantasy bank account?
Admit it, you won't be taxed at all. So stop playing games.
Greg Bernhardt said:The topic is about polls and election day. Let's keep it that way please.
Cyrus said:Its called the congress, GUY.
I didnt know you were so worried about people making over $250k a year. Do you know many? Do you really think going back to the 90s tax rate is going to affect their lifestyle?
Cyrus said:$250k is not upper middle class. %250k is the top 1% of the entire population.
249k, is six figures. Its not >=250k. So not "anyone" making six figure will be affected.
I didnt ask you if you know people making 'six figures'. I said do you know anyone making more than $250k.
Wow! They are early closers! Are you sure that takes in the whole state? I think we've got another 2 hours in Maine, and according to cnn.com Indiana closes at 7:00Evo said:Inidiana's poll closes in 10 minutes.