Waht does standing wave with both ends open has 396hz mean?

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A standing wave in a pipe with both ends open has a frequency of 396 Hz, with the next higher harmonic at 662 Hz. The fundamental frequency is determined to be 266 Hz, and the length of the pipe is calculated to be 0.645 m. The initial confusion arose from incorrectly applying harmonic formulas, but the correct relationship between frequencies and pipe length was established. The discussion also revealed a misunderstanding about the pipe's configuration, suggesting it might be closed at one end. Ultimately, the correct calculations were confirmed, leading to a fundamental frequency of 208 Hz and a pipe length of 0.825 m.
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Homework Statement


A standing wave in a pipe with both ends open has a frequency of 396 Hz. The next higher harmonic has a frequency of 662 Hz.(a) Determine the fundamental frequency.


answer: 266 Hz

(b) How long is the pipe?
answer : 0.645 m

The Attempt at a Solution



i'm not sure how to solve this problem

f1 = v/(2L)

i thought of using algebraic equations for 396 and 662

396 hz = 2v/(2L)
662 hz = 3v/(2L)

but then it doesn't work
i am not sure...

i have the answers

266 hz = 343/ (2*0.645)
which works as the fundamental perfectly
but when i set 396 hz as 2nd harmonic and 662 hz as 3rd it doesn't work
and if the fundamental for open pipe both sides is 266 the next harmonic must be times 2 of f0, but it is not

thank you
 
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This pipe is rather one end closed, I am afraid.

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i got it
the answer to the first question is 608 hz - 400hz = 208 hz

and the 2nd is 343/2/208 = 0.825m
 
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