WAIT I'm not through whining :-(

[Kurdt]

lol I love the advice. Wait to see until your dead. If you're not within 48 hours then you'll probably be ok.

 

[jim mcnamara]

IF (big if) it is a recluse spider bite, then it will take a long time to heal. You REALLY, REALLY do not want a recluse bite.

It could also be a boil, or some sort of "point" infection. Recluse bites are more exotic sounding, so maybe it's more entertaining when you are inflicted with boils and sores to get a diagnosis of 'evil spider bite'

If it keeps you awake get medical help.

 

[Astronuc]

I think I have a recluse spider bite on the back of my leg. Or some similarly venomous insect/archnid bite. It's developed a small ulcerated spot, hard, surrounded by red and hot to the touch. Very painful. Kept me up last night. I have a bag of ice strapped to my leg, left over from my last trip to the ER.

I've read up on recluse bites, based on the reaction at the bite site, it should heal up on it's own within 6 weeks.

Umm - a brown recluse bite is pretty serious. Most literature indicates medical attention is required ASAP. If one has all the symptoms mentioned, then one should see a doctor immediately.

Brown recluse spider bites to the head: three cases and a review.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Brown...he+head:+three+cases+and+a+review-a0124261634

The bite of the brown recluse spider causes the most severe form of arthropod-induced tissue necrosis. Its venom is made up of nine different proteins. (5) The primary factor responsible for tissue necrosis is sphingomyelinase. (6) This enzyme interacts with the membranes of erythrocytes, platelets, and endothelial cells. (7) Although sphingomyelinase D is toxic to many types of cell, significant tissue damage requires the participation of the host's own cells, particularly neutrophils and platelets. (8) Following envenomation, the initial injury is endothelial damage to the arterioles Arterioles, and these vessels become occluded with thrombi. made up of neutrophils and platelets. The neutrophils then degranulate and secrete prostaglandin metabolites that contribute to more endothelial damage, which leads to thrombosis, ischemia, and necrosis.

Brown Recluse Spider Bites: A Complex Problem Wound. A Brief Review and Case Study
http://www.o-wm.com/article/3823

Management of Brown Recluse Spider Bites in Primary Care
http://www.jabfm.org/cgi/reprint/17/5/347.pdf



A friend's mother was bitten on the ankle and it developed into a nasty would that never properly healed, even after skin grafts. The tissue necrosis was significant.

 

[Evo]

The bite (or festering boil, thanks Jim ) is very bad.

Since we have recluse spiders here, it seems the obvious culprit, the ulcer formed very quickly and is surrounded by a red patch. It's oozing, so I am keping it cleaned and aplying neosporin.

I had no idea what it was at first, but we have the damn spiders and this fits.

I am going to need to get to a doctor. Right now I am tempted to take a sharp object and root around because it REALLY HURTS.

I always thought that a recluse bite horrendous tissue damage, but I guess they can range in severity. The spot is very hot to the touch.

The spot is right in the middle of my calf. It's a very dry area.

From your link Astro (thanks)

Although most bites heal within 3 weeks without necrosis or scarring, approximately 20% develop necrotic ulcers that may take months to heal and often result in permanent scarring.

I believe this is a less severe bite. Also, the cleaning, drying, and neosporin seem to be keeping it under control. But did I mention how much it HURTS?

I just looked up boils. It's not a boil.

Oh good, I'm doing the right thing.

What is the treatment for a brown recluse spider bite?

Treatment consists of washing the wound and applying an antibiotic ointment.

http://www.calpoison.org/public/spiders.html#2

 

[dlgoff]

I didn't think there was much pain from a brown. I bet it's a different type of spider that bit you.

 

[Evo]

Now it's starting to look worse. Evo Child said a girl where she works got bitten by a recluse last month and they had to cut it open and drain it. Crud, I'm probably going to have to go to the urgent care place, but they are so incompetant.

 

[jim mcnamara]

IT's the subsequent necrotization and inflammation that hurts. People can be literally debilitated by the ulcerations. Secondary infections are also a problem.

 

[Astronuc]

Now it's starting to look worse. Evo Child said a girl where she works got bitten by a recluse last month and they had to cut it open and drain it. Crud, I'm probably going to have to go to the urgent care place, but they are so incompetent.

Can't you go to an actual hospital/ER? If the urgent care (clinic?) place does not have competent staff, then one should not go there.

 

[Evo]

Can't you go to an actual hospital/ER? If the urgent care (clinic?) place does not have competent staff, then one should not go there.

It's a $20 co-pay at the urgent care and $125 at the ER.

I'm reading that there is no way to diagnose a bite. I just want to make sure it's not a staph infection gone bad. I'm more worried about that then if it's a bite.

Why can't this happen during the week, it's always, as Lisab pointed out, on a weekend.

 

[Andre]

Go now Evo, Hurry, take a cab, perhaps dlgoff can help?

 

[turbo]

It's a $20 co-pay at the urgent care and $125 at the ER.

So you'll accept sub-standard care for the sake of $105? Misplaced priorities, Evo. Go, Please!

 

[Proton Soup]

what's a doc going to do? say, "yep, that looks like a bite. keep a band-aid on it and come back in a week for a follow-up." ?

 

[Evo]

what's a doc going to do? say, "yep, that looks like a bite. keep a band-aid on it and come back in a week for a follow-up." ?

That's what I'm thinking. Everything I'm reading says they can't do anything more than what I'm doing, unless it's really serious, which it's not. I'm probably just over sensitive to the pain, it's really probably no worse than a cut from a dull razor, which, by the way, I just did in the shower. Yeah, it's about the same.

Ok, it's a toss up, bug bite says to apply ice, not heat, a boil/staph infection says to apply heat.

I'm going to apply ice, it helped reduce the pain yesterday. A glass of wine would be nice, why is it I never have any?

 

[turbo]

A glass of wine would be nice, why is it I never have any?

The spider drank the wine, then attacked you in a drunken rage. Case solved.

 

[Proton Soup]

maybe some lidocaine would help with pain. i think you can find it in sunburn remedies, still. pads made for shingles might be expensive and require Rx.

as for heat, you could maybe apply it periodically as prophylaxis for infection and follow up with ice for inflammation. i think I've only ever had one spider bite I'm aware of. it was on my toe, a bit painful, and caused a small pustule. I'm glad it happened when i wasn't looking, spiders freak me out. :(

 

[CaptainQuasar]

I guess this thread is actually about that new reality hit, The Evo Show. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/lol.gif

But referencing the original topic of Evo's computer crash from earlier in the year, to nerdologue, I just came across a really interesting backup option, JungleDisk, which backs your data up to the Amazon Internet Cloud service.

P.S. Oh, whoops, you got injured. Wasn't that especially insensitive of me. I do hope it gets better.

⚛​

 

[dlgoff]

Go now Evo, Hurry, take a cab, perhaps dlgoff can help?

Yes. If you need a way to get to a doctor or somewhere, just let me know. I'll PM my phone number Evo.

 

[Evo]

Yes. If you need a way to get to a doctor or somewhere, just let me know. I'll PM my phone number Evo.

Oh, you will regret that.

 

[dlgoff]

I think you would be worth it.

 

[Evo]

I guess this thread is actually about that new reality hit, The Evo Show. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/lol.gif

But referencing the original topic of Evo's computer crash from earlier in the year, to nerdologue, I just came across a really interesting backup option, JungleDisk, which backs your data up to the Amazon Internet Cloud service.

P.S. Oh, whoops, you got injured. Wasn't that especially insensitive of me. I do hope it gets better.

⚛​

I still need to get the stuff off of that computer.

Yes, another injury. Did I mention that it HURTS?

I think you would be worth it.

Oh, no, you'll be sorry.

 

[Moonbear]

I'm just going to wish you a speedy recovery on this one. I've been watching some marathon of mystery diagnosis all afternoon/evening while canning apples, so needless to say, I have a head full of bizarre, freakish illnesses right now, and am all too willing to see this as a sign of something horrendous too.

 

[Red Rum]

Evo, I can't leave you out of my sight for a minute, can I? I hope this arachnid intervention has resolved itself by now. Otherwise I'll just have to send in the lone stranger to suck the poison out. On a vaguely related note, I just got back from Ireland and as soon as I stepped in the door was bitten on the shoulder by a mosquito. It's November, cold and raining in antediluvian proportions for God's sake! Santa Claus and his aerosol underarm deodorants up in the north pole has a lot to answer for.

 

[Evo]

Evo, I can't leave you out of my sight for a minute, can I? I hope this arachnid intervention has resolved itself by now. Otherwise I'll just have to send in the lone stranger to suck the poison out. On a vaguely related note, I just got back from Ireland and as soon as I stepped in the door was bitten on the shoulder by a mosquito. It's November, cold and raining in antediluvian proportions for God's sake! Santa Claus and his aerosol underarm deodorants up in the north pole has a lot to answer for.

See what happens every time you travel? Something bad happens to me!

The leg is getting better, apparently my treatments are working.

Now, if I got bitten by a mosquito, it would be carrying equine encephalitis.

 

[Red Rum]

You know, Evo, I was trying to avoid drawing that conclusion, inescapable though it appeared. I will in future plan my travel around periods when you are likely to be confined indoors and therefore perhaps like likely to be exposed to the perils of insects, arachnids or other small but potentially deadly invertebrates. I'll have to encourage the offspring of Evo to provide better security and protection in the future.

 

[Andre]

You know, Evo, I was trying to avoid drawing that conclusion, inescapable though it appeared. I will in future plan my travel around periods when you are likely to be confined indoors and therefore perhaps like likely to be exposed to the perils of insects, arachnids or other small but potentially deadly invertebrates. I'll have to encourage the offspring of Evo to provide better security and protection in the future.

.

Alterately, you might consider sending her a better guardian angel.

 

[Red Rum]

What can I do? She's an atheist! Maybe we should just cast a few spells over her. Probably have more impact than those American witchdoctors and voodoo merchants with their modern day vaccines, antibiotics, steroids, anti inflammatories and whatnot.

 

[turbo]

What can I do? She's an atheist! Maybe we should just cast a few spells over her. Probably have more impact than those American witchdoctors and voodoo merchants with their modern day vaccines, antibiotics, steroids, anti inflammatories and whatnot.

You might consider hiring her a baby-sitter. It's cheaper than all those visits to the emergency room. If the baby-sitter can cook and hold up one end of an intelligent conversation, so much the better.

 

[Red Rum]

You might consider hiring her a baby-sitter. It's cheaper than all those visits to the emergency room. If the baby-sitter can cook and hold up one end of an intelligent conversation, so much the better.

At current rates it would probably be cheaper to have an emergency medical team on permanent standby.

 

[Evo]

RED RUM!

Actually I am agnostic, but I was told that being agnostic was cheating and that I am an atheist. Perhaps this is the cause of all of my bad luck, it is the wrath of God.

Red Rum, since you almost became a priest, can you intervene on my behalf?

 

[Red Rum]

RED RUM! Since you almost became a priest, can you intervene on my behalf?

Oh yes, my daughter, confide in me and have faith and we shall see this thing through. I may have been defrocked but my healing touch has never deserted me.