Want to find out the mass movement capability of my motor

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass that a specific motor can drive, given its torque, rotational speed, and wheel radius. Participants explore various factors affecting the motor's performance, including load conditions and efficiency, while considering practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the motor's specifications: torque of 5 Nm, 90 rpm, and a wheel radius of 0.05 m, seeking to calculate the mass it can drive.
  • Another participant suggests that the constant torque indicates friction balancing the system, proposing that measuring the force required to stop the wheel could reveal the maximum weight it can hold.
  • Questions arise regarding whether the motor has a gearbox, with one participant noting that 90 rpm seems low for an off-load speed.
  • A participant mentions real-life restrictions, such as electric motors drawing more current under load, and suggests that while a naive calculation indicates it could hold 10 kg, caution is advised regarding actual performance.
  • Another participant calculates that the motor produces a force of 100 N at the wheel's periphery, implying it could lift 10 kg if used as a winch, while also discussing the importance of power output and efficiency.
  • There is a reference to the need for careful consideration of load to avoid overloading the motor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the motor's capabilities and the factors influencing its performance. While some calculations suggest it could lift 10 kg, there is no consensus on the reliability of these estimates or the implications of real-world conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations such as the potential for increased current draw under load and the importance of efficiency in determining actual performance. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the motor's specifications and operational context.

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am not sure if i am asking it right, it appears to be very easy, but am un able to solve it...
any help is highly appreciated..:)

Ques: ihave a motor wuth these specs

torque = 5 Nm
no of revolution = 90 rpm
radius of wheel mounted on motor shaft = 0.05 m

i need to calculate the mass which this motor can drive?
 
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A constant torque of 5N turns the wheel at a constant 90rpm means there is friction in the system balancing it out. No net torque.
But if you put a Newtonmeter on the rim and figure the force to stop it, then you also have the maximum weight it can hold.
 
Does this motor have a gear box in it? 90rpm seems very slow for an off-load speed. What sort of motor is it?
 
Simon Bridge said:
A constant torque of 5N turns the wheel at a constant 90rpm means there is friction in the system balancing it out. No net torque.
But if you put a Newtonmeter on the rim and figure the force to stop it, then you also have the maximum weight it can hold.

yea i will mount it on some wheel definitely but before that i want to get the idea of its capability...
 
sophiecentaur said:
Does this motor have a gear box in it? 90rpm seems very slow for an off-load speed. What sort of motor is it?

yea it is worm geared motor... mostly used in car windows.
 
iirc there are important real-life restrictions - don't rl electric motors draw more current under load or something? I remember something about motors burning out.

But doing stuff with motors is usually more about power than work.
So you need to settle on something for a benchmark.

Manufacturer usually has a clue or three too.

A naive calculation would suggest to expect it to hold 10kg against gravity with the specs shown. I wouldn't bet on it though. The RPM given, if stamped on the motor, may be that under normal load (eg - lifting a window). Have you run it without yet?
 
From the data, it looks as though the motor will produce a force of 100N at the periphery of the 0.05m wheel. That suggests it should lift 10kg if you use it as a winch, for instance.

Torque = Force times radius
so Force = Torque/ radius

There is another important parameter and that is the useful Power output.
The power out will be Torque times angular speed (in radians)
That's 5 * 90*2π/60 = 47W
If the motor is 50% efficient, that means a current draw of about 8A, when running on full spec load. Doesn't sound too far wrong for a chunky bit of car electrics.

The motor should lift this 10kg at about 0.5m/s.

Someone else might like to check these shirt cuff sums.

[edit - well, at least Simon agrees with my 10kg figure. Ain't sums wonderful?

and the bit about being careful not to overload is relevant too.]
 

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