Weired Ice Cube - How'd it happen?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the occurrence of ice spikes in a tray of ice cubes, which is a rare and interesting phenomenon. Some speculate that it may be due to certain conditions causing a weak spot in the ice cube to expand and freeze, while others suggest using distilled water and a fan to reproduce the spikes. The conversation also mentions a Cal Tech explanation and a New Scientist article on the topic. It is concluded that distilled water and specific temperatures may be necessary to create these spikes, and that they can add a fun twist to party drinks.
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been an ice cube maker for many years now :tongue2: and have never seen this happen before.

I imagine air was trapped water was starting to freeze and forced the air out at the same time as freezing, but all seems pretty coincidental for two cubes to do this.

Anyone know how this happened?

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nitsuj said:
And yes it doesn't take much to amuse me. :smile:

Hey, I've spent HOURS wondering about stuff like that... What do you think makes people want to be scientists in the first place? :smile:

Interesting that the ice cube in back is doing the same thing, although a bit less spectacularly. My best guess is that there is some condition that caused most of the top of the cube to freeze hard and deep while a spot in the center didn't freeze as deeply as quickly. Then as the water in the center expanded (water is weird, expands as it cools towards freezing) the increasing pressure forced water up through the weak spot, freezing as it went.

But that's a guess.
 
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A great guess, must of been how it happened. But yea, specially odd the one in the back did the same thing.
 
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They're called ice spikes.

Nugatory has the explanation pretty much right.
 
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Nugatory said:
Hey, I've spent HOURS wondering about stuff like that... What do you think makes people want to be scientists in the first place? :smile:

Interesting that the ice cube in back is doing the same thing, although a bit less spectacularly. My best guess is that there is some condition that caused most of the top of the cube to freeze hard and deep while a spot in the center didn't freeze as deeply as quickly. Then as the water in the center expanded (water is weird, expands as it cools towards freezing) the increasing pressure forced water up through the weak spot, freezing as it went.

But that's a guess.

I don't get it. There had to be some special conditions that did not hold for the others, and for almost all other ice cubes. I've never seen that. Like there had to be a small warm spot under that particular cube tray, or maybe a small, warm high-heat capacity object in the tray. Why does it go off at an angle? Maybe its an icicle, formed by dripping water from above? Was the tray tilted in the freezer?

To get to the bottom of this, we have to make ice spikes reproducibly and make no ice spikes reproducibly. I doubt that it is simply a random event.
 
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Cal Tech has a wonderful explanation, and preferable conditions to get them to form.

multspikes.jpg


Synopsis:
The freezer needs to be at -7.5C.
Use distilled water.
A fan is better.
Longest spike created was 2.2 inches long.

Now I know how to make spiked ice for my next party!
 
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OmCheeto said:
Synopsis:
The freezer needs to be at -7.5C.
Use distilled water.
A fan is better.
Longest spike created was 2.2 inches long.

Now I know how to make spiked ice for my next party!

Spiked Ice...Nice!

So it must have been the temperature that was just right. most of the other cubes in the tray were not completely frozen, still had liquid water in the middle of them.

Maybe they would have become spiked ice if I had removed them from the freezer.

Is just city treated water, so not distilled...must be the other rare circumstance...comparatively "pure" water.

glad to see my spike was average size :tongue2:
 
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CWatters said:
I believe it was also covered in New Scientist some years back.

Edit: Yes here..
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16404-gallery-how-to-make-your-own-ice-spikes.html

but need a subscription.

There's a Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_spike

I guess you need distilled water so that the water freezes at the surfaces, from the outside in. Impurities form nuclei and the ice freezes around them, the freezing occurs throughout the volume of the water. Cool (no pun intended).
 

1. How did the weird ice cube form?

The weird ice cube likely formed due to a combination of factors, such as changes in temperature, air bubbles, and impurities in the water. These factors can cause the ice to form in irregular shapes and textures.

2. Is the weird ice cube safe to consume?

As long as the water used to make the ice cube was safe to drink, the weird ice cube should also be safe to consume. However, if you are unsure about the water quality, it is best to avoid consuming the ice.

3. Can weird ice cubes occur naturally?

Yes, weird ice cubes can occur naturally in certain conditions, such as in frozen lakes or rivers where the water is moving and freezing at the same time. They can also form in glaciers due to the pressure and movement of the ice.

4. Can weird ice cubes be replicated?

It is possible to replicate weird ice cubes by controlling the temperature and impurities in the water. However, the exact shape and texture may vary each time, making it difficult to create an exact replica.

5. Are weird ice cubes a sign of a larger issue?

In most cases, weird ice cubes are simply a result of natural processes and do not indicate a larger issue. However, if you consistently notice strange ice cubes, it may be worth checking the water source and the temperature settings on your freezer.

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