What Angle Causes the Fishline to Break?

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The discussion centers on determining the angle at which a fishline will break when a 2 kg ball is released from rest. The breaking strength of the fishline is 44.5 N, and the calculations involve analyzing forces acting on the ball, including tension and gravitational force. Participants clarify the use of sine and cosine in the equations and emphasize the importance of drawing a free body diagram for accurate analysis. The final calculation suggests that the fishline will break at an angle of approximately 40.82 degrees from the vertical. The conversation highlights the need for careful consideration of force components and their relationships in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



A 2 kg ball is attached to the bottom end of a length of fishline with a breaking strength of 44.5 N. The top end of the fishline is held stationary. The ball is released from rest with the line taut and horizontal (theta = 90 degrees). At what angle theta (measured w/vertical) will the fishline break?


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none i can think of

The Attempt at a Solution



F=\dfrac{mv^2}{l} where l is the length of the wire. then from conservation:

mgh = \dfrac{1}{2}mv^2

mg(l \sin \theta) = \dfrac{1}{2} ( F\cdot l)

F = 2mg\sin \theta = 44.5

Which is incorrect as sin theta must be < 1.
 
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At the angle θ, what would be the components of the forces radially and tangentially and in what direction would the tension T act?


After that, how would you find the centripetal force in terms of these forces?
 
Sorry I still can't get it with your information. Any other hints/solution?
 
Account for the weight opposing tension force.

(At the bottom, Fnet = 2mg = Tension - mg(weight), so max tension would have to = 60N for the line to never break.)
 
Two comments:
- You have sine and cosine reversed; note that θ is measured from the vertical.
- What you call F is the radial component of the net force on the ball, not the tension in the string.

Draw a free body diagram of the forces on the ball.
 
Oops, is this correct now:

F=T-mg\cos\theta \implies T-mg\cos\theta = \dfrac{mv^2}{l}
Where l is the length of the line.

mgh = \dfrac{1}{2}mv^2\implies mg(l\cos\theta) = \dfrac{1}{2}(T-mg\cos\theta)\cdot l

2\cdot 9.8\cos\theta = \dfrac{1}{2}(44.5-2\cdot 9.8\cdot\cos\theta)

\theta = 40.82^{\circ}

Please correct if it's wrong.
 
It looks good to me
 
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