What Are the Implications of H. Arp's Red Shift Quanta Theory?

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The discussion centers on H. Arp's red shift quanta theory and its controversial implications in cosmology. Participants express skepticism about Setterfield's claims, labeling him as uncredentialed and suggesting that his theories lack scientific rigor. The conversation highlights the existence of more substantial datasets from high-quality redshift surveys, which contradict Setterfield's assertions. There is a call for community members to analyze publicly available data to validate or challenge these theories. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for critical examination of unconventional scientific ideas.
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http://www.setterfield.org/Redshift.htm
This paper may be controversial, It discuses red shift quanta, i notice
reference is given to H Arp, but i leave the reader to form an opinion.
 
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wolram said:
http://www.setterfield.org/Redshift.htm
This paper may be controversial, It discuses red shift quanta, i notice
reference is given to H Arp, but i leave the reader to form an opinion.
Would you like to borrow my asbestos suit?
 
by turbo 1
Would you like to borrow my asbestos suit?
No, my thoughts are none main stream, this post is a bit of devilment, to invoke
original thinking.
 
well I am a sober man with conservative scientific views and I take
this offer of an asbestos suit as a piece of impertinence and
an affront to my dignity
even it it was inadvertently offered to wolram
the smilie adds insult to injury and is not to be tolerated
 
wolram said:
by turbo 1
Would you like to borrow my asbestos suit?
No, my thoughts are none main stream, this post is a bit of devilment, to invoke
original thinking.
I know that Wolram - I was just making light of the reaction you would get if you seriously promoted Setterfield here. :devil:

I've been "roasted" for FAR less egregious offenses! :smile:
 
marcus said:
well I am a sober man with conservative scientific views and I take
this offer of an asbestos suit as a piece of impertinence and
an affront to my dignity
even it it was inadvertently offered to wolram
the smilie adds insult to injury and is not to be tolerated
I'm sorry, Marcus. I don't know if I can behave well enough to survive while Wolram borrows my suit. :rolleyes: You may have to get one of your own... Hey! you're still alive! You've already got one, you devil. :devil:
 
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wolram said:
http://www.setterfield.org/Redshift.htm
This paper may be controversial, It discuses red shift quanta, i notice
reference is given to H Arp, but i leave the reader to form an opinion.
Apparently, Barry has not yet heard about the 2df survey results.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0208/0208117.pdf .
Setterfield is an uncredentialed and notorious crackpot with a cult following in creationist cosmology. Arp is a credentialed maverick with a fringe following in alternative cosmology.
 
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Well said Chronos; if anyone is interested, I believe the talkorigins website has a good discussion of Setterfield's nonsense about a variable speed of light (it's truly amazing what you can 'prove' through wilful distortion, misrepresentation, and general disregard for data).

I found it astonishing that Setterfield quoted a 'large dataset' ... of 399 redshifts IIRC, well before 2dF even got started there were several high quality red-shift surveys, with up to tens of thousands of datapoints. Now, post-2dF, we have the first, second (and next week third) data release from SDSS.

As so much of the data is in the public domain, anyone - wolfram, turbo-1, marcus, Chronos, Nereid, ... - is free to get it and analyse it to their hearts' content.

This mission, should you choose, ... do let us know what you found, please?
 
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