What direction does friction point in a diagram of a spring?

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The direction of the friction force in a diagram of a spring on an inclined plane is contingent upon the motion of the object. If the mass is at rest, the friction force opposes any potential motion, which could be either up or down the incline depending on the spring's state (tension or compression). Without additional information regarding the spring's stretch or compression, it is impossible to definitively determine the direction of the friction force. The key takeaway is that friction always opposes relative motion between surfaces in contact.

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Homework Statement


A mass is at rest on a spring on an inclined plane. Which way would I draw the force of friction on a force diagram?

Homework Equations


Fnet=0
F=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution


It could point either up the incline, or down the incline.
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Danya314 said:
It could point either up the incline, or down the incline.

Yes, that's correct.
 
So, which is it?
 
Danya314 said:
So, which is it?

The force of friction always points opposite the direction the object is moving.
 
Dick said:
The force of friction always points opposite the direction the object is moving.
or in a direction to oppose motion. (It may be at rest.)
 
So in this case, would it point down the incline?
 
Danya314 said:
So in this case, would it point down the incline?
Suppose there were no friction. Which way would the block move? Is there enough information to decide?
 
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Danya314 said:
So, which is it?
If a block, attached to a spring, is at rest on an inclined plane and that's all the information you have, then there is not enough information to deduce the direction of the friction force. It could be up the incline or down the incline, depending on the amount by which the spring is stretched or compressed. That's why I said your statement in the "attempt at a solution" section was correct.
 
  • #11
If friction was ignored, then I would assume the the net force would pull the block down the incline and strech the spring.
 
  • #12
Danya314 said:
If friction was ignored, then I would assume the the net force would pull the block down the incline and strech the spring.
You wrote that it was "on" the spring. Is it above the spring or below it on the slope?
Either way, as TSny keeps telling you, there is not enough information to decide. The spring may be under tension or under compression.
 

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