What do the pots do in this circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the function of potentiometers (pots) in a circuit diagram of a 4-step sequencer connected to an Atari Punk Console. Participants explore the role of these pots in relation to a 556 timer chip and the 4017 decade counter, particularly focusing on voltage levels and triggering mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the pots control the voltage at pin 2 of the 556, which is the threshold pin that responds to high and low voltage levels.
  • Another participant agrees but limits their understanding to the output from the 4017 being applied to the trigger pin of the 556.
  • Some participants argue that the pots are crucial for level shifting between the 4017 and the 556, allowing for adjustment of the voltage levels sent to the 556.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of the pots compared to switches, with a suggestion that pots may provide finer control over the triggering speed of the comparator.
  • Further discussion questions the practical impact of varying the voltage levels set by the pots, given that the comparator switches at a specific voltage threshold.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the pots in the circuit. While some acknowledge their role in voltage adjustment and level shifting, others question their necessity compared to the switches, indicating a lack of consensus on their overall importance.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific impact of the pots on the comparator's behavior, particularly in relation to the defined voltage thresholds and the operational characteristics of the 556 timer.

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This is a circuit diagram of a 4-step sequencer connected to an atari punk console. What I want to know is what those pots connected between the 4017 chip and the diodes do. I know they control what voltage appears at the terminal connected to pin 2 of the 556, but that pin 2 is the threshold pin that only responds to two different voltage levels, high and low, so surely the pots do nothing and one only really needs the switches?

Here is the schematic: http://note.monoanimal.com/images/apccircuit_2.jpg

Sorry for the quality.
 
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I think you are right. (I am thinking only in terms of ' output from 4017 being selectively applied to trigger pin of 556' I don't know what the rest of the circuit do)
 
The pots set the voltage level for pin 2 of the 556. The diode drop is more or less constant so you can adjust what two voltages are sent to the 556 by adjusting the voltage on the anodes of the diodes with the pots. They are an important part of the circuit if you need to do any kind of level shifting between the 4017 and the 556.
 
carlgrace said:
The pots set the voltage level for pin 2 of the 556. The diode drop is more or less constant so you can adjust what two voltages are sent to the 556 by adjusting the voltage on the anodes of the diodes with the pots. They are an important part of the circuit if you need to do any kind of level shifting between the 4017 and the 556.

I don't understand how the pots have any more affect that the switches do, unless the pots allow slightly greater control as to how fast you want the comparator to trigger. Does that sound right?
 
godman said:
I don't understand how the pots have any more affect that the switches do, unless the pots allow slightly greater control as to how fast you want the comparator to trigger. Does that sound right?

The switches don't adjust the voltage levels, they just allow whatever it happens to be to go through. The pots allow you to adjust the voltage level (e.g. 1V or 4V or whatever).

So, the pots allow you to set the threshold where you want the comparator to trigger.
 
carlgrace said:
The switches don't adjust the voltage levels, they just allow whatever it happens to be to go through. The pots allow you to adjust the voltage level (e.g. 1V or 4V or whatever).

So, the pots allow you to set the threshold where you want the comparator to trigger.

From what I can tell from the wikipedia article, the comparator switches when the voltage at threshold (pin 2) is greater than the voltage at control (pin 3). The voltage at control is set at 2/3 Vs, so if Vs is 5, what difference does it make if the voltage at pin 2 is set at 1V or 2V by the pot? The comparator only switches at 3.3V so what use does being able to vary the voltage from 0-3.3V have if the 555 will be in the same state in that entire range?
 
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