What do the symbols in the equation for a damped harmonic oscillator represent?

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The discussion revolves around the physical meaning of the symbols in the equations for damped and undamped harmonic oscillators. Participants explore the definitions and implications of the parameters involved, including amplitude, damping constant, and angular frequency, within the context of oscillatory motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies A as the amplitude of the first swing and expresses uncertainty about the damping constant k, suggesting it has a physical meaning that is not fully understood.
  • Another participant clarifies that w represents angular frequency, not angular velocity, and explains its role in describing the oscillation's phase evolution.
  • A more general form of the equation is proposed, incorporating an initial phase shift, which could account for initial displacement.
  • A participant inquires about the period of motion for a damped pendulum, questioning whether it is larger than that of an undamped pendulum and whether it remains constant.
  • Another participant provides the formula for the period, T=2*pi/w, and notes that it represents the number of cycles per second, but does not address the questions about the damped pendulum's period directly.

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Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the physical meanings of the symbols and the implications for the period of damped oscillators. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the period of a damped pendulum and its comparison to an undamped one.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the implications of damping on the period of oscillation, and there are unresolved questions about the constancy of the period in damped systems.

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Hi there.

I'm having a problem explaining the physical meaning of the symbols in the equation for an underdamped Harmonic oscillator:

[tex]A*e^{k*t}*sin(w*t)[/tex]

I can see that A is the amplitude of the first swing, which we will not see, since sin(w*t)=0 for t=0.
Now k is the damping constant and something, I don't what more to say about that.

The last one, w, I find the hard one. I cannot tell, what this is. I mean, it's not the angular velocity, since this is changing. It is some sort of frequency?

Likewise, when the oscillator is not damped, and the equation is:

[tex]A*sin(w*t)[/tex]

What is the w here? Is the actual angualar speed here?
//EDIT:
Wait, I see that it cannot be angular speed here either, since this is of course also constantly changing, both in size and direction. I can't see, what it is. If someone could please exemplify it? Thanks. :)
//

Thanks in advance.
 
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It is an angular frequency (not velocity), describing the evolution of the phase of the oscillation... when w*t goes through 2pi the oscillation has gone through one cycle.
One cycle is one rotation in complex displacement space if we use the identity sin[wt]=Im[exp[i*w*t]]
 
Thank you both very much!
However, I'm still having one problem. What is the period of the movement? I've heard that it's larger than for an undamped pendulum. Is this true? And also, is the period constant for a damped pendulum? I can't tell this from the equations, but some of you can maybe?

Thanks in advance.
 
What class is this for, physics I probably?

The period is T=2*pi/w [Hz]

Its the number of cycles each second of the body.

Your book should explain these things very clearly.

Keep asking questions and the math to your answers are going to get damn horrible real quick!
 

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