What does ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## represent?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the notation ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## and ##\bar{y}_{\textrm{el}}## in the context of centroids and moments, particularly in relation to integrals used in calculating first moments of length or area.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## and ##\bar{y}_{\textrm{el}}## in relation to centroids and moments.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral involving ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## appears to represent a first moment, but expresses uncertainty about its origin.
  • A later post reiterates the initial question about the representation of ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## and ##\bar{y}_{\textrm{el}}##, providing a definition that relates them to the location of the centroid of a tiny element used in calculations.
  • Resources are provided to support the discussion, including a link to a PDF and a reference to a textbook.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the notation and its implications, with no consensus reached on a definitive explanation.

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Some participants indicate a lack of familiarity with the notation and its application, which may limit the depth of the discussion.

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In the context of centroids and moments, what do ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## and ##\bar{y}_{\textrm{el}}## represent?

For example:

$$\bar{x}L = \int \bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}dL$$
 
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The integral itself looks like a first moment, where the integrand is a function of position. I have no idea where this came from, so I can't go into any more detail.
 
mathman said:
I have no idea where this came from, so I can't go into any more detail.

Thanks for your response, mathman.

Here are some resources that utilize this notation:

  1. (page 1) http://www.sut.ac.th/engineering/Civil/CourseOnline/430201/pdf/05_review.pdf
  2. Vector Mechanics for Engineers:Statics and Dynamics by Ferdinand P. Beer & E. Russell Johnston J.
Below is an example problem Beer's

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END said:
In the context of centroids and moments, what do ##\bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}## and ##\bar{y}_{\textrm{el}}## represent?

For example:

$$\bar{x}L = \int \bar{x}_{\textrm{el}}dL$$

xEL and yEL represent the location of the centroid of a tiny element of length dL or a tiny element of area dA used to calculate the first moments of length or area.

Study pp. 1 and 2 of the link carefully. :wink:
 

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