What does the oxidation states of each element in a compound mean?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of oxidation states in chemical compounds, specifically focusing on their meaning and implications in chemical reactions. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of oxidation numbers, their role in balancing reactions, and the interpretation of changes in these values.

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  • One participant notes that in the sulfate ion (SO42-), the oxidation state of oxygen is -2, leading to a sulfur oxidation state of +6, and questions the significance of these numbers regarding electron distribution.
  • Another participant argues that oxidation numbers are not physical quantities but rather tools for tracking electron transfer in reactions, emphasizing the importance of changes in oxidation states during reactions.
  • A participant questions whether the oxidation number at a specific time holds any meaning, suggesting that only the changes in these numbers are significant.
  • In response, it is suggested that while the specific values may lack physical meaning, they serve a purpose in balancing reactions, similar to potential energy in physics.
  • One participant asserts that all balanced reactions must account for both mass and charge conservation, implying that oxidation states should reflect these principles as well.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of oxidation states, with some emphasizing their utility in tracking electron changes while others question the meaning of the values themselves. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of oxidation states and their physical significance.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of oxidation states and their application in various contexts, as well as the assumptions made about their physical meaning and relevance in chemical reactions.

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If I have SO42-, I can figure out that the oxidation state of each O ion is 2- and the sulfur ion must then be 6+. What does this number mean? What does it tell you about the electrons in that molecule?
 
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Oxidation number is not a physical quantity. It is a tool used to keep track of electrons in reactions. If the oxidation number is increased during a reaction, the atom has electrons taken away from it and vice versa.

Example:
Ox. numbers: +III   +II      0  +III
Reaction:    Au3+ + 3Fe2+ → Au + 3Fe+3

In the process of this reaction, a gold ion (Au3+) steals one electron each from three iron ions (Fe+2). This is shown in the change of their oxidation numbers.
 
So the oxidation number of an element at a point in time has no meaning, it is only the change in the number that has meaning?
 
You could put it that way, but you don't have to give so much thought to what the numbers represent so long as you can get the neccesary information from their utilization.

When I learned about them first, it was as a tool for balancing reactions, since some reactions have to be balanced with respect not to molecules o ions, but with respect to electrons, like the one I posted above. In that sense you are right, the actual alue has no physical meaning. It's kind of like potential energy. The value in question can be anything, but it's change during precesses is well defined.
 
espen180 said:
some reactions have to be balanced with respect not to molecules o ions, but with respect to electrons

Actually every correctly balanced reaction should be balanced both in terms of atoms (to reflect mass conservation) and charges (to reflect charge conservation).
 
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