What does this symbol even mean?

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The discussion revolves around understanding specific notation related to metric spaces, particularly the symbols N(e, S) and D(e, S). Participants express confusion regarding their meanings and the context in which they are used, as well as the implications for proving a statement involving these symbols.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the definitions of N(e, S) and D(e, S), with some suggesting that N may refer to "neighborhood" based on their prior knowledge. Others express frustration over the lack of resources, such as a textbook, to clarify these terms.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the notation with some participants suggesting that asking the instructor may be necessary. A few have attempted to connect the symbols to their understanding from topology, but there is no consensus on their meanings yet.

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Some participants mention that the course does not utilize a textbook, relying instead on PowerPoint slides, which may contribute to the confusion regarding the notation. Additionally, there are technical issues noted with certain browsers displaying symbols incorrectly.

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Homework Statement


Show for any metric space (S,d) and  e> 0 that N(e, S) <=  D(e, S) <= N(e/2, S)


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The Attempt at a Solution


Can somebody please tell me what does N(e,S) or D(e,S) even mean so I can at least know what I am asked to prove?

I dig through all the notes, and online sources and could not find anything operation that involves a metric space with a real number.

Thanks!
 
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powerovergame said:

Homework Statement


Show for any metric space (S,d) and  e> 0 that N(e, S) <=  D(e, S) <= N(e/2, S)
My browser (IE 8) shows empty boxes for six of the symbols above.

Do you have a textbook? If so, it should define any notation like this that is used. N(. , .) could mean "neighborhood", but the notation used in the text I studied for my Topology class uses N(p, ε) to mean the ε-neighborhood of a point p in set S.
powerovergame said:

Homework Equations


none

The Attempt at a Solution


Can somebody please tell me what does N(e,S) or D(e,S) even mean so I can at least know what I am asked to prove?

I dig through all the notes, and online sources and could not find anything operation that involves a metric space with a real number.

Thanks!
 
Mark...don't use Internet Explorer. This is 2011, use Mozilla FireFox.
 
flyingpig said:
Mark...don't use Internet Explorer. This is 2011, use Mozilla FireFox.

FireFox is pure crap for a lot of operations, so some of us shun it. For the casual user it seems OK but if you are a software developer, it is useless.
 
phinds said:
FireFox is pure crap for a lot of operations, so some of us shun it. For the casual user it seems OK but if you are a software developer, it is useless.

Use Chrome then?
 
Uh they are just all regular texts. Thanks for your help, I suspected it meaning neighborhood too, you see, neighborhood is defined by a point and a positive number. Here it is just a metric space and a positive number, what kind of things can be defined out of this?

And this class doesn't have a textbook. We use only a power point slide, which I look through at least 10 times and found nothing that relates to this.

It feels one way when you don't know how to prove a statement, but it feels totally different when you don't even know what statement you are asked to prove.
Mark44 said:
My browser (IE 8) shows empty boxes for six of the symbols above.

Do you have a textbook? If so, it should define any notation like this that is used. N(. , .) could mean "neighborhood", but the notation used in the text I studied for my Topology class uses N(p, ε) to mean the ε-neighborhood of a point p in set S.
 
Unless someone else here can decipher this, you should ask your instructor what the notation means.
 
Mark44 said:
Unless someone else here can decipher this, you should ask your instructor what the notation means.
If there was time I would't be here. Oh well... it's life. It's funny how the instructor just put it there as if it a commonly used notation
 
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What was the symbol? Was it X?
 
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flyingpig said:
What was the symbol? Was it X?
Symbols here <==> Symbols in the link [p]
S X
d rho
N N
D M
 
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<=> is if and only if
 

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